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Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:36 pm
by Youngian
That’s been clear since May’s Red lines speech. BoE predicting growth to flatline and interests rates rising to six percent by next February. On the bright side, not a lot of bandwidth for culture war.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:52 pm
by davidjay
Crabcakes wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:02 am Sky news reporting letters are going in to Graham Brady already. They’re absolutely shitting it that she’s broken the economy.

No point making loads of £££ if you make the £ worthless.
You really think they're making their fortunes (bigger) in sterling?

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:04 pm
by Crabcakes
davidjay wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:52 pm
Crabcakes wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:02 am Sky news reporting letters are going in to Graham Brady already. They’re absolutely shitting it that she’s broken the economy.

No point making loads of £££ if you make the £ worthless.
You really think they're making their fortunes (bigger) in sterling?
The big hedge funders, sure. But I was talking about a lot of traditional Tory voters who will be seeing the value of their savings diminish even if they’ve kept a few more quid in tax.

In moving very clearly away from the centre, they’ve also moved very much upwards in the social classes they have decided to appeal to.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Where has she been the last few days?

Ought to have been everywhere in the media, reassuring markets.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Midas Touch.


Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Might be an outlier but the Tories trail in the latest yougov poll by 17 points. And fieldwork done before today's disasters.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:15 am
by mattomac
Let’s put it this way I’m not sure where we will see a bounce from for her.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:16 am
by Crabcakes
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:46 pm Where has she been the last few days?

Ought to have been everywhere in the media, reassuring markets.
Almost like her backup plan was to distance herself and leave Kwarteng out to dry if it didn’t work.

Apparently she has form for doing next to nothing and then swooping in and taking credit, so should there be a miraculous turnaround you can expect photoshoot Liz to be popping up at every treasury brief, business lunch and bank meeting.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:37 am
by Bones McCoy
Crabcakes wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:16 am
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:46 pm Where has she been the last few days?

Ought to have been everywhere in the media, reassuring markets.
Almost like her backup plan was to distance herself and leave Kwarteng out to dry if it didn’t work.

Apparently she has form for doing next to nothing and then swooping in and taking credit, so should there be a miraculous turnaround you can expect photoshoot Liz to be popping up at every treasury brief, business lunch and bank meeting.
"Doing a John Terry" as the football fans say.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:21 pm
by davidjay
Crabcakes wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:16 am
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:46 pm Where has she been the last few days?

Ought to have been everywhere in the media, reassuring markets.
Almost like her backup plan was to distance herself and leave Kwarteng out to dry if it didn’t work.

Apparently she has form for doing next to nothing and then swooping in and taking credit, so should there be a miraculous turnaround you can expect photoshoot Liz to be popping up at every treasury brief, business lunch and bank meeting.
Really? I wonder who she got that from?

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:16 pm
by Crabcakes
Turns out Truss isn’t inept, or scheming to let others take the fall. She’s just weapons-grade batshit crazy.

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss-ha ... r-12706352

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:42 pm
by Dalem Lake
mattomac wrote:Let’s put it this way I’m not sure where we will see a bounce from for her.
Hopefully when her arse is bounced out of No 10.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:29 pm
by Youngian
Crabcakes wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:16 pm Turns out Truss isn’t inept, or scheming to let others take the fall. She’s just weapons-grade batshit crazy.

https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss-ha ... r-12706352
Good luck with that.
The government will reject claims circulating in Whitehall that the meeting between Ms Truss and Mr Kwarteng was "argumentative" and descended into a "shouting match".

This comes as the chancellor plans to hold further emergency meetings with global bankers this week to discourage them speculating on the pound.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:36 pm
by Andy McDandy
Why am I imagining that meeting and picturing Jennifer Connelly's final scenes in Requiem for a Dream?

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Has anybody actually seen her?

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:15 pm
by mattomac
She’s got to make a speech next week which has gone from very easy to seriously difficult.

And no pressure as her entire premiership could fall because of it.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:16 am
by Bones McCoy
Statements today (Not the PM but some of her close supporters) suggest a two pronged deflection.

* Investors shorting the pound: Happens every day, nothing to see here.
* Crisis: It's all the Bank of England's fault for not responding appropriately.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:31 am
by Youngian
Truss may enjoy a bounce, next year. People with no mortgages and private pensions benefit from high interest rates.

Re: Liz Truss - dimmest prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:21 pm
by Crabcakes
Youngian wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:31 am Truss may enjoy a bounce, next year. People with no mortgages and private pensions benefit from high interest rates.
Might be smaller than expected though if they have to help out their kids who do have mortgages. Or are trying in vain to get one.