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Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:30 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This doesn't suggest Barrow will be turning into Hampstead any time soon.

As an aside, look at Scotland there. That's Tory standard dumping onto the level below. Wales is an honourable exception to that.

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Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 8:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Talking of councils in Devon...

Brown was going to make that unitary, but the Coalition stopped it. I knew they had a general policy, as Andy says, but didn't know there were plans in Devon.

Funny old game. As I say, the argument for it is overall efficiency, not levelling up. So obviously, put it in a levelling up white paper. Ye gods.


Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
On a similar theme to the last post. Of course, you'd generally try to promote efficiency. Unfortunately, it doesn't always fit easily with levelling up.

Then again, they got away with this before, on the basis that the jobs were "Labour non-jobs". So they might do again.


Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:36 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
That's 618 jobs to be lost in Stockton and Sunderland, with more in Peterlee to come.

By comparison, there are 750 Treasury jobs going to Darlington with much fanfare.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:40 pm
by Cyclist
Funny how all these offices earmarked for closure are situated somewhat to the north of the Home Counties.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:43 pm
by Boiler
I hope the 924 employees of the Shipley office remember that when Philip Davies's name next appears on a ballot paper.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Cyclist wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:40 pm Funny how all these offices earmarked for closure are situated somewhat to the north of the Home Counties.
I don't know- are the jobs not in these places because they needed the jobs more than the south when they were set up?

Or as David Cameron would say, "Labour stuffed public sector non-jobs into their heartland to buy votes, but all it did was crowd out dynamic public sector investment".

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Boiler wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:43 pm I hope the 924 employees of the Shipley office remember that when Philip Davies's name next appears on a ballot paper.
He didn't do that well last time, compared to Tories generally. 1.4% swing to him, compared to 4.5% nationally. Labour clear in 2nd place.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:03 pm
by Boiler
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:58 pm
Boiler wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:43 pm I hope the 924 employees of the Shipley office remember that when Philip Davies's name next appears on a ballot paper.
He didn't do that well last time, compared to Tories generally. 1.4% swing to him, compared to 4.5% nationally. Labour clear in 2nd place.
I'm sure the Tories of Burley-in-Wharfedale will do their best to keep him in place.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:37 am
by AOB
Universal Credit: Jobseekers must widen job search more quickly


From Thursday, people will have to look outside their sectors after just four weeks, rather than three months, or face sanctions.

This government had mates who set up companies to provide PPE gear so they could get the billion pound contracts, they gave Covid loans to companies they knew full well were no longer trading because they were mates- all this skulduggery would have made Al Capone blush- yet job seekers are given yet another hoop to jump through just to claim their pittance.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:40 am
by Watchman
Yes, don’t these redundant office workers realise fruit and veg won’t pick itself

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:30 pm
by davidjay
AOB wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:37 am Universal Credit: Jobseekers must widen job search more quickly


From Thursday, people will have to look outside their sectors after just four weeks, rather than three months, or face sanctions.

This government had mates who set up companies to provide PPE gear so they could get the billion pound contracts, they gave Covid loans to companies they knew full well were no longer trading because they were mates- all this skulduggery would have made Al Capone blush- yet job seekers are given yet another hoop to jump through just to claim their pittance.
The Tories in a nutshell - you make the rich work harder by making them richer, you make the poor work harder by making them poorer.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:46 pm
by RedSparrows
davidjay wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:30 pm
AOB wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:37 am Universal Credit: Jobseekers must widen job search more quickly


From Thursday, people will have to look outside their sectors after just four weeks, rather than three months, or face sanctions.

This government had mates who set up companies to provide PPE gear so they could get the billion pound contracts, they gave Covid loans to companies they knew full well were no longer trading because they were mates- all this skulduggery would have made Al Capone blush- yet job seekers are given yet another hoop to jump through just to claim their pittance.
The Tories in a nutshell - you make the rich work harder by making them richer, you make the poor work harder by making them poorer.
Nice summary. Two different species, obvs.

And they have the temerity to bleat 'class war' at the merest hint of progressive taxation. Bastards.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 12:53 pm
by Andy McDandy
I think it was Scott Adams (before he went a bit odd) who said that in most companies, below a certain level you're a cost to be eliminated; above it you're an asset that needs to be retained at any cost.

If you're paid £100,000 and can justify and manage the firing of 20 £20,000 employees in a year, you've made the company (or its shareholders) twice what you cost. And if all your shareholders care about is maximising profit, gutting the company and moving on, then bully for you.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 1:04 pm
by Boiler
Watchman wrote: Thu Jan 27, 2022 8:40 am Yes, don’t these redundant office workers realise fruit and veg won’t pick itself
Hey. there'll be over 70,000 NHS staff looking for a job after next week - sorted!!

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:47 pm
by Crabcakes

The Tories in a nutshell - you make the rich work harder by making them richer, you make the poor work harder by making them poorer.
I have a slightly different take: you make the rich shut up and stop bothering you by giving them more disposable income and hence more opportunities for leisure as a distraction, and you make the poor shut up and stop bothering you by making their lack of income and exhaustion from never having the luxury of leisure time as a distraction.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:29 pm
by Youngian
From Thursday, people will have to look outside their sectors after just four weeks, rather than three months, or face sanctions.

For people that have jobs instead of trades, careers and professions, 'What sort of work are you looking for?' seemed a daft question if you're looking for any old work to pay the bills. So this move won't effect them. It will however waste the time of a plumber or IT specialist and the boss of the local pizza parlour who know's these applicants are going to piss off at the first possible opportunity. Johnson is selling this as a side effect of a succesful growing economy not the result of telling a workforce happy to fill these vacancies to piss off back to their own country. And then forcing people who don't want the jobs to take them.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:29 pm
by Samanfur
This can only end well:

Professor who suggested non-white Britons not ‘indigenous’ to advise Gove on levelling-up plan

Michael Gove has picked a controversial professor who suggested non-white British-born people are not “indigenous” to advise him on levelling up plans, The Independent can reveal.

The appointment of Paul Collier, who claimed immigration has made “the indigenous British” a “minority” in London – apparently excluding ethnic minorities – has been condemned as “divisive” by anti-racism campaigners.

The development economist at Oxford University also argued, at a seminar, that people born in this country should count as indigenous only if they have integrated into British society.

In one TV interview, he also argued immigrants have led to Britons leaving the capital, asking: “Is London such a great success for the indigenous population?

“Something rather drastic has happened to the indigenous population in London ... I can think of no other major city where the indigenous population has more than halved.”

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:57 pm
by Cyclist
The development economist at Oxford University also argued, at a seminar, that people born in this country should count as indigenous only if they have integrated into British society.
So, all those natives of that large antipodean island who were excluded from 'Australian' society are not indigenous to Australia then. Right. Ok. Or does it mean that white Australians who haven't "gone bush" can't count themselves as Australian?



Worracunt. Should fit in well with the current Tories.

Re: Is there a levelling up thread?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Is he a troll appointment?