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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He just lost to Badenoch and Jenrick, so there is that. (I think the mucking about may have been by supporters of Jenrick in the second to last round, rather than Cleverly supporters taking an absurd risk).
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:08 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
He may be well educated but he is deeply stupid and disappointingly dishonest.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:04 am
by Andy McDandy
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -principle
John Crace has a pop at Chris Filp and Suella Bormann. Fish and barrels, but just because it's easy doen't mean it's not fun.
He is a man who operates totally within his own reality. The rest of the world only exists as an extension of his imagination. There was nothing before he was born and there will be nothing when he’s gone. Imagine there’s no people. It’s easy if you try.
Jarvis looked genuinely concerned for the Philpster’s state of mind. He is a kindly man who naturally tends to give the benefit of the doubt, so just in case Philp had missed it the first time, he repeated his message.
It was perfectly OK for Chris to carry on misleading people on X. He could also Man Up in the Manosphere. Tell misogynist jokes. It wasn’t funny, and it wasn’t clever, but Chris wouldn’t get his collar felt by the police. He was in the clear. A halfwit, bordering on quarterwit. But not an extremist.
Braverman wasn’t there to touch base with reality. Britain was invaded by Chinese spies. And immigrants. Get rid of anyone with brown skin. That’s what the Donald would do. Even the Conservatives were secret commies. The UK was on track to become an Islamist state in 20 years. A country that would nuke the USA as soon as look at it.
The Heritage Foundation host, Nile Gardiner, sounded bewildered by the end. There was batshit and batshit.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:43 am
by Youngian
Where can we find Swellin's speech? Particularly intrigued to know why she thinks Prince Harry should be extradited.
I still remember when the idea of indescribably dim backbencher Suella Fernandes even being made a PPP was unimaginable.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:55 pm
by davidjay
Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:43 am
Where can we find Swellin's speech? Particularly intrigued to know why she thinks Prince Harry should be extradited.
I still remember when the idea of indescribably dim backbencher Suella Fernandes even being made a PPP was unimaginable.
The big problem now is working out what's real and what's parody.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:02 pm
by Youngian
Here we are, Braverman calling for Trump to release Harry's visa application to see if there's any funny business. Trump will deport him if possible after taking down his pal Rupert in the courts.
https://x.com/NileGardiner/status/18843 ... m-rhw&s=19
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:44 pm
by kreuzberger
What do Braverman's parents have to say about this? Have Kemi's folks anything to add?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:46 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:30 pm
by Bones McCoy
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:48 am
by Tubby Isaacs
That’s an arse kicking.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:43 am
by Tubby Isaacs
That bit where she says Labour are doing Tory policies on infrastructure. The fact that none of it got built might be something of a difference,
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:58 pm
by Youngian
The coalition of blockers is a broad church stretching from Reform to the Greens.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:32 pm
by Abernathy
A rather hysterical in tone and Labour-hostile piece from George Monbiot (Squealer Jones' blood brother) in today's
Grauniad that I'm dubious about affording too much validity to, mostly because it's well, George Monbiot. Worth a wee read, though.
Look at Labour’s acts of environmental vandalism and ask: did I vote for this?
George Monbiot
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rnment-gdp
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 1:50 pm
by Youngian
I'm sympathetic to that POV. If planes are stacked up flying around Heathrow because they are at full capacity then a third runway could be justified. But deliberately expanding supply and demand for flying is ecologically negligent and the case unproven. If more routes to provincial Chinese cities are vital to our future prosperity (which sounds a highly questionable proposition that would appear in a corporate construction promo video) then prioritise them over more frivolous reasons to fly. These cities will be connected to Bejing by high speed rail and to ports where the vast majority of trade with Europe is moved.
Reeves mocks environmental concern in true Trumpian fashion, claiming that people object to schemes like the third runway she has just announced at Heathrow because they “might add something to carbon emissions in 20 years’ time”. There’s no “might” about it. They will. But who cares what happens in 20 years? It won’t be her problem.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:21 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Do you really want to live in a society that tells you that you can't fly because your flight is 'frivolous'?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:39 pm
by Youngian
If your flight doesn't exist and you have to catch an overnight train to get pissed in Prague, Western civilization will still stand.
I'd love to see the Canadian and Alaskan wilderness or South America before I die but I can through videos and photos. My unimportant trivial privilege to have access to long haul leisure flights is not a fundamental human right.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:40 pm
by Oboogie
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:43 am
That bit where she says Labour are doing Tory policies on infrastructure.
If that were true, surely the Tories would be fully supportive of Labour implementing 'their' policies? So how come they're not?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:43 pm
by Oboogie
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:21 pm
Do you really want to live in a society that tells you that you can't fly because your flight is 'frivolous'?
Until flight is made environmentally sustainable, yes, I'd vote for that.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:16 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
So define 'frivolous'.
Then explain it to the electorate...
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:35 pm
by Watchman
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:48 am
That’s an arse kicking.
As in kicking Bishop Brennan up the arse