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That's strong and unequivocal. Do we think it will have an effect? Obviously extremists will do what extremists will do, but will the mainstream media now pull back from gleefully promoting liars? I honestly don't know.

It’s coming to something where Farage has the better fucking take than the Tories. Especially coming in the same week as Jenrick’s outright racism.

Harry cole has been claiming that starmer thinks normal Brits who want an inquiry are far right.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:28 am Great speech by Starmer telling Musk and the Tories where to shove their child grooming and support for Yaxley-Lennon bullshit.

https://www.politics.co.uk/news/2025/01 ... ding-lies/

It's good, but how much traction will it get compared to the lies of Elmo, GB News, the Tommeh crew ...

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:58 am That's strong and unequivocal. Do we think it will have an effect? Obviously extremists will do what extremists will do, but will the mainstream media now pull back from gleefully promoting liars? I honestly don't know.

I saw someone (might have been Peter Geoghan of Open Democracy) saying "act like a doormat, they'll treat you like one", but I think that's a rather optimistic reading, like the idea that punching Gripper Stebson in the face would have stopped him bullying you.

They'll keep on doing it irrespective of what Starmer says, so long as there's a rump of public opinion and wingnut welfare to reward them. Better just to say it's the right thing to do, so do it, even if it doesn't stop them.

It's genuinely worrying that the American definition of free speech - that you can and should lie and indeed shout "fire" in a crowded theatre - should be gaining traction here.

Killer Whale wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 4:38 pm It's genuinely worrying that the American definition of free speech - that you can and should lie and indeed shout "fire" in a crowded theatre - should be gaining traction here.

And look whom it suits...

Musk not so keen on absolute free speech for Muslims in Canada
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/187602564 ... qXy9g&s=19

Cooper's making a statement. She's stuck it to the Tories for not implementing the recommendations of public inquiry that was held.

But Philp is displaying all his innate cuntishness...

David Lidington says Tories should respond to Musk's comment about Jess Phillips with 'disgust and contempt'

David Liddington was the Deputy PM as recently as July 2019.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:05 pm But Philp is displaying all his innate cuntishness...

You're not joking, are you? Absolutely deplorable, pure MAGA. It's Robinson and Musk who they're calling far right, not people who think child rape is bad. Philp himself served 4 PMs who didn't call a public inquiry.

The shadow home secretary Chris Philp has reiterated calls for a national inquiry, adding it is “not far-right to stand up for victims of mass rape”,

Philp was met with shouts of “shame” from the Labour benches as he told the Commons: “It is not far-right to stand up for victims of mass rape.”

“Smearing people who raised those issues is exactly how this ended up getting covered up in the first place,” he added.

Philp also asked the home secretary to confirm if data from the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse on the ethnicity of perpetrators will be published.

I have to say I was deeply impressed by the heft and force, and righteous anger, of what Keir had to say about the attacks from the likes of Musk on Jess. And calling out Badenoch and Philp, too.

It’s very much what was required.

Brain of Britain has entered the conversation.

Conservative MP Nick Timothy (West Suffolk), who previously worked as an adviser in the Home Office, suggested creating a unit in the National Crime Agency dedicated to investigating not only untried perpetrators but the police officers, social workers and local councillors “complicit in these disgusting crimes”.

What's the crime, Nick?

And I'm guessing that if it did happen that the people you were going after might want a lawyer. Perhaps you can pass that on to your leader.

Hang on, I think it's a great idea. First to be called in, Nick Timothy, Spad who helped slash police budgets.

JO'B within a whisker this morning of referring to him as Chris "Felch" made oi larf.

I was greatly impressed by Yvette Cooper.

If only we had chosen her instead of Magic Grandad.


Spoiler: I voted for her.

She's stuck it to Anderson nicely. Says the Government he "supported for many years" didn't do what she's doing now. Sounds like straight talking Lee gave "Labour" a harder time than the Police who you might think had some responsibility.

As an aside, this buffoon is still somehow an MP.

Labour MPs have been warned not to ignore the publics petition for a general election, or risk fuelling the rise of extremist parties.

Conservative MP Sir Edward Leigh, father of the House, told a Westminster Hall debate that it will be “foolish” for the government to “go ahead ignoring what most people are frustrated about”, even if they ignore calls for another general election.

Last poll has Labour 5 points in the lead, with Starmer as best PM. That's a massive 2 point swing to his party since the election, despite the second biggest tax raising budget in peacetime history. One might think his party ought to be doing better.

Robbie Moore, Conservative MP for Keighley and Ilkley, told the Commons: “Rape gangs and the grooming of children has haunted Keighley and the wider Bradford district for decades, yet local leaders have consistently refused to launch an inquiry.”

Moore said the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse did not reference Keighley or Bradford, adding: “Despite many, including myself, fearing that the scale of this issue across the Bradford district will dwarf that of Rotherham.”

Local leaders? Who was in Government, Robbie? Any responsibility for West Yorkshire police at all, missing all this crime?

This is a good speech.

Shockat Adam, MP for Leicester South, said: “Perpetrators of sexual crimes must face the full force of the law regardless of their race, their religion or their nationality. But an overseas bad faith actor is using truly horrific cases of group-based child rape to demonise a community and slander a minister of the crown, someone who has genuine experiences in helping victims of abuse.

“This narrative is false and this narrative is dangerous. Many reports from 2015 to 2024 have concluded that the common denominator for sexual violence is not immigration, race or culture.

“Isn’t this the real point here? If the victims have been falsely told perpetrators look a certain way, or are part of a certain community, they will have a false sense of security when with people who don’t fit that stereotype.”