- Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:53 pm
#10927
Thing with the AFD is, there is always going be a party like that even in Germany especially after the reunification. There stronghold remains a certain area in the East (I believe the old Bavaria “von” lot).
A presence that’s stagnated and not branched out isn’t really going anywhere in arguably an election which was more open than previous ones. It’s like Vox in Spain, they’ve had a high mark but now seem to trundle on at about 15%.
I do feel it’s kind of missed here in Britain as the Tory party has done what the Republicans have done and basically aped the worse excesses of the far right (especially the Republicans).
Even in Italy, Lega have slowly nosed dived all year, these parties will exist, sadly that’s the climate that’s developed but a repeat of 2017 when there was more to play for is rather poor and says stagnation, maybe Spain and Germany have similarities that are not repeated elsewhere but in Norway the Eurosceptic party failed to do much and was it the Dutch or the Austrian where they made no head way.
Le Pen’s even been slowly diving since the beginning of this year and that’s not particularly against a popular incumbent. To say they have a presence, they always have. They just change their names slightly and grow a beard or something (not in Le Pen’s case). It’s not really serious analyse, BNP we’re replaced by UKIP, Reform or the Brexit Party replaced UKIP, the Tories aped some of that and took some votes but it’s still quite obvious that some of that vote won’t go out and vote for the Tories. In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if they suffer as much as Labour do on GOTV next time out.
Goodwin has tried to propose this as some massive shift but if I’m honest the only proof of that is in America (who still voted in Biden who has tagged a fair bit to the left so far, let’s face it, stop the war should have cheered American withdrawal, it’s what they want) and the UK who included Jeremy Corbyn one if not thee worst leader of the Labour Party against populist Bojo in an election that had one issue that Corbyn was forever fudging because frankly he wasn’t good enough to lead a party on a leave ticket when most of it was Remain.
I kind of miss the two weeks when he went silent after Biden won.