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By Tubby Isaacs
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Per the BBC, this is in the white paper.
greater powers for mayors to manage rail networks and introduce London-style public transport, where buses, trains and trams are integrated into one system with pay-as-you-go fares and joined-up services
I wish they wouldn't keep saying "London-style". But seems like more centralisation to Whitehall isn't a dead cert yet.
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By The Weeping Angel
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Of course this is all Rachel Reeves's fault.

https://www.ft.com/content/8dcadbd2-57a ... f2704fe209



UK companies are cutting employee numbers at the fastest rate since the pandemic, according to a closely watched survey that highlights the impact of Rachel Reeves’ tax-raising Budget.

Private sector employment in December fell by more than during any month since January 2021, according to the S&P Global flash UK purchasing managers’ employment index.

The index fell to 45.8, down from 48.9 in November. It was below the key 50 mark for the third consecutive month and the lowest since 2009 if the pandemic is excluded.

Any reading below 50 indicates that a majority of businesses are reducing headcount.

Chris Williamson, chief business economist at S&P Global Market Intelligence, said: “Firms are responding to the increase in national insurance contributions and new regulations around staffing with a marked pullback in hiring, causing employment to fall in December at the fastest rate since the global financial crisis in 2009 if the pandemic is excluded.”
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By Tubby Isaacs
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See how the actual data looks. Surveys can be misleading. But I think they did overdo the gloom leading up to the budget. I get the politics of that (and they certainly had a point) but they were never going to get the benefit of "mess we inherited" like Osborne did, and he inherited faster growth which helped him hide his shit performance.
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By Andy McDandy
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:33 pm Actually talking of London, does it need 33 library services? New York has 3, and 1 of those serves Manhattan, the Bronx and Staten Island.
Amalgamated library services are a thing, particularly in the west Midlands, west country and East Anglia. Loose cooperation and joint planning has been a thing in the South Wales valleys for the last 20 years. It's been mooted in London, but every time there's been loads of petty politics and personal agendas at play.

Ealing (who I once worked for) had no issue with partnering Havering or Merton. But Brent or Hounslow? Fuck that noise.
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By Dalem Lake
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Andy McDandy wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:16 pm It's remarkably easy to get in touch with your local council. Community fora, online discussion, councillor surgeries etc. It's just easy for people to blame bureaucracy for their own apathy.
We lost our district council, which tbf for a Tory council was actually not too badly run, when North Northants Unitary was created. North Northants is fucking shit in comparison. Services down all over the place, accounts not been signed off for the last couple of years, and good luck trying to contact them about anything. It takes them six weeks to answer an email and sometimes they don't even bother responding. Phone them and you looking at a minimum 30 minute wait.

If Labour want to tinker about with local government, they should start by having a look at reforming council tax.
By NevTheSweeper
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Andy McDandy wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:02 pm Nev, I have worked in local government for the best part of the last 25 years.

You are talking bollocks.
I worked for a London council for 18 years as a humble roadsweeper, later as a refuse collector. I have seen at the sharp end when the first government cuts came. So what's your f***ing point?
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By Andy McDandy
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NevTheSweeper wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:22 pm I worked for a London council for 18 years as a humble roadsweeper, later as a refuse collector. I have seen at the sharp end when the first government cuts came. So what's your f***ing point?
OK, let's start with a few basics. District councils are, in many cases, a historical hangover from the days when being in Lindsay or Kesteven (or wherever) meant something. Where they exist as an intermediate stage between parish and county, they're talking shops. They create massive work duplication, and have very few executive powers. Want a new park bench? Ask your parish council. Want a new park? Ask the county.

Abolishing district councils was expressly forbidden by the Cameron government, despite being in the eyes of the Local Government Association (LGA) the most effective way to save LAs money. It was ruled out because a) loads of ex-councillors running to the press, and b) the government wanted to actually hurt LAs, so removing the easy saving option guaranteed that actual public facing services would be cut. Among them waste disposal, and believe me when I say I commiserate with you on that.

In some areas, splitting councils up does make sense. I've worked for Cheshire Shared Services (HR, IT etc for both Cheshire East, and Cheshire West and Chester), and Cumbria (up to its split into Cumberland and Westmorland). In both cases, the splits made sense. Cumberland (Allerdale, Copeland, Carlisle) is broadly industrial, urban, and Labour. Westmorland (Eden, South Lakes, Furness) is broadly rural, touristy, and Tory. When they were one body, whichever party was in power was notorious for not giving a shit about the half of the county with the wrong affiliation. Sometimes a densely urban area in an otherwise rural setting (e.g. Telford and Shropshire, or Leicester and Leicestershire), the town has very different needs to the countryside. But generally, one body can provide the representation, oversight and scrutiny, while streamlining the decision making process.

Regional assemblies, with substantial decision making powers and budgets, were a pet project of the late John Prescott. They were scuppered though, in a referendum. Painted as yet another wasteful layer of government, and a talking shop for failed politicians by one D. Cummings, who led the campaign against them. They could work, although they run the risk of being dominated by a faction. A bit like how North West Tonight (other regional news programmes are available) rarely strays from Manchester and Liverpool. Either way though, I'm not quite sure how replacing district oversight with regional makes any sort of improvement, let alone difference. It comes down to where decisions can be made, and where the money is. You can vote for or against whatever you like, but without a budget you're not doing anything.

Shared services do save money, and can work very well when providing a statutory level of provision (i.e. where regardless of politics, a given service level has to be provided). In terms of back office functions (as it is in Cheshire), there's a certain amount of "do 18.5 hours for CEC, then 18.5 for CWaC, because they're each paying half your salary", but generally you got on with the job in front of you (and besides, in ICT, most services use the same software anyway, so what you do for one council you replicate for the other).
By Youngian
#80915
The two tier councils were a piece of gerrymandering introduced by the Heath government who realised large urban populations voting Labour would swamp rural Tory areas of counties. Noticed Cambridgeshire gaining a Labour mayor in revent years didn't go down well with Farmer Palmer in the Fens.
By soulboy
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Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:08 am A bit like how North West Tonight (other regional news programmes are available) rarely strays from Manchester and Liverpool.
Straying off topic a little, the Western half of the TVS/Meridian and BBC South Today area covered all of Hampshire plus big lumps of Dorset, bits of Surrey, the Salisbury area in Wiltshire, and as far up as Reading in Berkshire. The studios were in Southampton.

We called it Boat News.
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By Crabcakes
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NevTheSweeper wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:46 pm A simpler solution would be to create regional assemblies outside London, which would deliver services currently managed by central government, for example, the NHS and social security.
To tackle one specific point - for the NHS this would have the absolute opposite effect of what you seem to think it will.

1. It wastes money by repeating (usually higher end pay-wise) high-level oversight and administrative jobs in each region
2. It breaks down economies of scale in purchasing and negotiation
3. It inevitably leads to competition between areas for the best staff - with the areas best funded (usually due to other factors such as size/location) able to pay more. Thus leading to two-tier services

The net result being underfunded, run down and demoralised staff working for admin-heavy orgs with local ‘chiefs’, and more expensive contracts. And we know this is how it works because this is broadly how the Tories approached the NHS to weaken it and break it up to make private provision and privatisation easier to do and justify.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#80934
Crabcakes wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:23 pm
NevTheSweeper wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:46 pm A simpler solution would be to create regional assemblies outside London, which would deliver services currently managed by central government, for example, the NHS and social security.
To tackle one specific point - for the NHS this would have the absolute opposite effect of what you seem to think it will.

1. It wastes money by repeating (usually higher end pay-wise) high-level oversight and administrative jobs in each region
2. It breaks down economies of scale in purchasing and negotiation
3. It inevitably leads to competition between areas for the best staff - with the areas best funded (usually due to other factors such as size/location) able to pay more. Thus leading to two-tier services

The net result being underfunded, run down and demoralised staff working for admin-heavy orgs with local ‘chiefs’, and more expensive contracts. And we know this is how it works because this is broadly how the Tories approached the NHS to weaken it and break it up to make private provision and privatisation easier to do and justify.
They also mooted this as their way of annihilating the state education system. 'Regional Pay Structures' my arse.
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