[Andy McDandy]

The only reason I can think of for describing Irish cross-border trade as a problem and not wanting to encourage more of it is because the Tories fully intended to reinstate the hard border, call in the army, and turn the clock back to the 1970s.

Please someone, tell me I'm wrong.

DUP, Gove and a few others maybe. Most of the ERG think there’s a country called Southern Ireland full of happy farmers jigging with a pig under their arms. Brexiters did dedicate some of their massive brain power to Ireland and there were three camps; The good ol’ Paddies will back us against the Krauts, Frogs and Wops. Then there’s the traditional ‘we’ll show the Micks who’s boss’ if they step out of line (See Priti Patel). And down at Arkham Asylum is Farage and Hoey who predicted Ireland would rejoin the UK to grab a slice of the Brexit boom.

Worth grasping Irish politics even if not interested to illuminate the stupidity of the moron bottom feeders running this state.

Just big kids really. One day they'll see sense and stop their tantrum and come back home.

[MisterMuncher]

They've never, ever embraced the idea of Irish. Same as Scottish or Welsh. It's just an inability to embrace a post-colonial world. There's an expectation we'll all turn around and say "Actually, fuck it. Never mind all that unpleasantness. Thanks for the language and the railways. Tell us what to do". Go deeper, you'll see the same thing with India, Australia, South Africa &c.

I'm as mild a man as can be, but they do somewhat awaken the inner Chuckie*. What they haven't considered is that it isn't 1970, there's a couple of thousand border crossings now, and they'd be faced with the power of a few hundred thousand people engaged in malicious compliance as only the Irish can do every single day. Britain would be bankrupt in a week. Never mind the dissidents. Seamie has a job in Dublin, but he lives in Newry. He has a van, and five lads in the back. They'll be different lads every day. He lives to fuck with you. An Gardaí don't give a fuck. Seamie is one of 5000. He's an honest fella. Good luck with the shady types.

* Not, of course, that you'd ever hear me going "Tiocfíadh ár lá", because I didn't learn Irish in Long Kesh, and the proper idiomatic expression is "Beidh ár lá Linn".

[Youngian]

They've never, ever embraced the idea of Irish. Same as Scottish or Welsh. It's just an inability to embrace a post-colonial world. There's an expectation we'll all turn around and say "Actually, fuck it. Never mind all that unpleasantness. Thanks for the language and the railways. Tell us what to do". Go deeper, you'll see the same thing with India, Australia, South Africa &c.

You were saying

[MisterMuncher]

It's curious to see that mindset in the wild these days. It's just not realistic in this day and age. Socially and industrially, north and south are integrated to a degree beyond orange and green politics that just cannot be unpicked. It's not niavete to assume that can be steamrolled, it's fucking stupidity.

[Youngian]

Owen Jones makes it clear to Carole Malone he’s no EU cheerleader in the hope this might help her listen to him explain a very simple concept. To no avail

[RedSparrows]

Jeremy Vine playing with a straight bat is everything that should fucking fuck off; Malone is beyond contempt. That bit at the end that's cut off about 'being an open country' is peak-Farage troll also.

[Youngian]

Bloody health and safety

'I made a mistake voting for Brexit' says business owner as stock sits waiting to leave warehouse

company director Maxine Sault, who says she now believes she made a mistake in voting for Brexit

“I am wondering whether I have been weirdly transported to another planet where exporting my goods to Europe has been banned,” said Mrs Sault, who has run C & M Global and Toys 4 Life at Bednall, near Stafford, with her daughter Charlotte Stokes for six years.

“I am wondering why on earth did I vote for Brexit,” she said. She explained that other businesses she was speaking to were also having difficulties.

She admits to having voted ‘leave’ because she was sick of employment and health and safety rules originating from Brussels. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/bus ... 1zT9RNNXLs

[mattomac]

Bloody health and safety

'I made a mistake voting for Brexit' says business owner as stock sits waiting to leave warehouse

company director Maxine Sault, who says she now believes she made a mistake in voting for Brexit

“I am wondering whether I have been weirdly transported to another planet where exporting my goods to Europe has been banned,” said Mrs Sault, who has run C & M Global and Toys 4 Life at Bednall, near Stafford, with her daughter Charlotte Stokes for six years.

“I am wondering why on earth did I vote for Brexit,” she said. She explained that other businesses she was speaking to were also having difficulties.

She admits to having voted ‘leave’ because she was sick of employment and health and safety rules originating from Brussels. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/bus ... 1zT9RNNXLs

“I voted leave to shit on my employees” well go fuck yourself then.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

“I voted leave to shit on my employees” well go fuck yourself then.

This. This fucking this.

[Boiler]

Bloody health and safety

'I made a mistake voting for Brexit' says business owner as stock sits waiting to leave warehouse

company director Maxine Sault, who says she now believes she made a mistake in voting for Brexit

“I am wondering whether I have been weirdly transported to another planet where exporting my goods to Europe has been banned,” said Mrs Sault, who has run C & M Global and Toys 4 Life at Bednall, near Stafford, with her daughter Charlotte Stokes for six years.

“I am wondering why on earth did I vote for Brexit,” she said. She explained that other businesses she was speaking to were also having difficulties.

She admits to having voted ‘leave’ because she was sick of employment and health and safety rules originating from Brussels. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/bus ... 1zT9RNNXLs

“I voted leave to shit on my employees” well go fuck yourself then.

Many voted leave because they were promised a bonfire of red tape and were hoping things like the Working Time Directive would be the first to be slung on that bonfire, never mind Working At Heights, Electricity At Work and a whole myriad of other things that make workplaces safer.

Then Covid happened: and now employees would seem - for now at least - to hold all the cards. If a company boss tries to insist on forcing employees back to a shitty commute in an office five days a week, they're liable to be met with a resounding "fuck you, I'll go elsewhere and find somewhere they'll let me work more flexibly". Farmers are learning the hard way that English people aren't queueing up to do the jobs their cheap and far more hard-working EU workers did. The days of getting housewives to break their backs singling beet for a few bob back in the 60s/70s are long, long gone.

As long as the only victims in all this are greedy cunts who'd fuck their fellow man over so they can buy a shit Range Rover I'll be happy.

[kreuzberger]

It is somewhat optimistic to hope that only the greedy cunts get to feel the brexit blast. The laws of physics dictate that shit floats down hill. That a few knuckle-dragging racists will be caught in the back-wash, doesn't ease the pain

[davidjay]

Lessons from history - the Black Death helped bring about the end of the feudal system.

[Oboogie]

Lessons from history - the Black Death helped bring about the end of the feudal system.

It's a nice idea but the obvious difference is that the Black Death killed 30-40% of the English population causing such a shortage of labour that the balance of power shifted significantly.

[Cyclist]

Brexit is rubbish and it's all Starmer's fault...

Tory MP and self-styled ‘hardman of Brexit’ now says Brexit is a fiasco

Steve Baker has ruffled a few feathers after he branded Brexit a “fiasco” and indicated that politicians such as Sir Keir Starmer could be to blame for it.

The self-styled ‘Brexit hardman’ and former deputy chairman of the ERG took to Twitter to bemoan the ‘policymaking elite’, seemingly forgetting that he was Brexit minister from June 2017 and July 2018.

His comments come as a post-Brexit masterplan was unveiled to merge London with Amsterdam in a bid to plug financial trade lost to Brexit.

Earlier this month the governor of the Bank of England, Andrew Bailey, said he does not expect the EU to open the doors to UK financial services exports after Brexit...


...He tweeted: “Keir Starmer’s comments about #NetZero remind us that he’s part of the policymaking elite who have decided to make us poorer and colder.

“Politicians need to level with the public about the scale of change needed in our lives so we don’t have another political fiasco like Brexit.”...

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/polit ... co-284751/

Isn't it funny how none of the people who create utter shit are to blame for creating utter shit.? This is akin to a toddler sitting in a smashed greenhouse with a hammer in his hand saying "Some big boys done it and run away", and just about as believable.

"Steve, I bring terrible news. It’s your Brexit. It’s your ‘fiasco’. You were at the epicentre of the policy-making elite who pushed it through, without scrutiny, in the harshest terms possible," Sue Perkins tweeted.

This ^ ^ ^

[Boiler]

Mr. Baker seems to forget that in the "Red Wall" seats, Starmer was viewed as a 'traitor' to the Brexit cause and thus the Tories hoovered up the "Brexit über alles" vote preferred by those who wished to "rid the country of EU Red Tape" / "chuck out all the forrins (but how DARE you call me a racist!)" vote. Thus the eighty majority his party now enjoys was from people who wanted to see the UK have an ERG-style exit. Which, I seem to recall, Mr. Baker was a member of. That Project Fear you and that rubber-faced twat Gove rubbished? Looks a bit real now, doesn't it? Increasingly empty shelves in Waitrose*, British produce rotting in the fields... all yours, mate.

It's no good having buyers remorse now, Mr. Baker. You got what you wanted, now you have to look at what you bought for ever.

*other supermarkets are available.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Brexit's done, is it? I thought we were having to renegotiate a big part of it because it wasn't done properly.

[Boiler]

Vodafone is now following EE's lead and reintroducing roaming charges from January.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58146039

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[Bones McCoy]

Perhaps the Farmers and Fishers brexit that Farage, Montgomerie and Baker promised was always a mirage.

Instead we're getting the Spivs and Sweatshops Brexit that was always the plan.

[Boiler]

Nail ---> head there, Bones. This was always about turning the UK into Singapore with a temperate climate.

[Tubby Isaacs]

For the ERG, but I think Johnson was 50% "no more straight bananas" and 50% personal ambition.