Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:03 am
Abernathy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:55 pm
The two need not be presented as a mutually exclusive dichotomy. Remember "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" ?
You could see Sure Start as being part of that, but at the same time there was a high prison population.
Something like Sure Start will take 20 years to show results.
Otherwise (I've been away for 2 weeks, but posted a warning about mega-jails before I left).
Here's a brain dump.
I don't think it's contradictory to want to build more jails while thinking we jail too many people.
1. Mega Jails in the USA (and their copyists in central America) have proved to be recruiting grounds for ultra-violent organised crime.
There are reams of studies pointing to post Reagan mega-jails as the birthplace of the various Mexican Mafias.
2. Our jails are old and overcrowded. I accept we're in no position to demolish Barlinnie or the Scrubs. But some new builds on a smaller basis offer opportunities to spread the present population.
3. Options other than "banged up 23 hours" sound promising from a rehab and appropriate punishment perspective.
Care must be exercised so the "Nice soft sentences" don't become the preserve of criminals from a privileged background.
If the suspicion develops that ordinary cons are getting porridge and banged up, while Etonians caught skimming the economy get weekend detention, with yoga and internet.
Well then the Two tier meme deservedly grows legs.