[Nigredo]

Duplicitous as well seeing as migration numbers have steadily increased under successive Conservative governments because we need the cheap labour for the economy.

[Yug]

And to imply Labour's open-door immigration policy* is the root cause of the riots when the other lot had been in power for the last 14 years...



*whatever that might be - nobody in the Labour Party actually knows.

[Andy McDandy]

Duplicitous as well seeing as migration numbers have steadily increased under successive Conservative governments because we need the cheap labour for the economy.

Ah but they looked very sad and angry while it happened.

[RedSparrows]

Once, long, long ago, in halls, I was having a drink, late at night, with people post-club. Being a true philosophy undergrad I was nattering absolute shite about justice with a fellow pissed philosophy pseud.

Housemate turns around and says 'everyone in jail, just kill them. Why should I care?'

She was pissed as hell, but also... where the fuck did that come from?

And lo...

That's her, or have I misunderstood?

Hah, no. More just the type... same forename, coincidentally.

[Youngian]

And to imply Labour's open-door immigration policy* is the root cause of the riots when the other lot had been in power for the last 14 years...



*whatever that might be - nobody in the Labour Party actually knows.

Labour voters didn’t ask for an increase in global immigration, they were happy with the same reciprocal free movement rights that Hungarians enjoy under Viktor Orban. As does Irish Tenerife resident Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage’s kids.

To be fair Boris Johnson was fairly open about ‘attracting more global talent’ as was Farage with ‘more commonwealth immigration.’ It appealed to their colonial nostalgia while their dim supporters thought they were talking about Australian bar staff.

[Philip Marlow]

Decent summary from the LRB blog.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2024/august/ ... it-s-worse

In Britain today, the organised far right – consisting of groups with a formal structure and membership – is small and relatively marginal. (The EDL, for instance, no longer exists, except as a slogan chanted by some rioters.) Far more influence is wielded by entrepreneurial individuals who have built up large online followings, such as Robinson. They have the power to pick up misinformation, amplify it, embellish it and incorporate it into a longer-term narrative blaming immigration, multiculturalism, Islam and a liberal elite that supposedly conspires against the ethnic majority.

[AOB]

Few more jailed today, including a former school governor who stopped by for a bit of fascism on his way back from the bingo.

Meanwhile, a couple who became involved in riots in Hartlepool after going to an afternoon bingo session were each jailed for two years and two months.

Former postmaster and school governor Steven Mailen, 54, was described as one of the "main instigators" of violence in the town.

His partner Ryan Sheers, 29, was bitten on the hip by a police dog during the incident.

The group had gathered to target homes used by asylum seekers, Teesside Crown Court heard.

A judge said Mailen and Sheers were "at the very forefront of the mob" and tried to push their way through a police cordon, with Mailen taunting officers and encouraging others to use violence towards them.

Went the bingo in 2024, and won't be getting back home until 2026.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cze5g4djeplo

[Watchman]

88 - Who’s your new cell mate!

[satnav]

Some of the court reporting on Sky News is hilarious. A mother with two sons facing sentencing said that their behaviour was out of character and that they had just got carried away with the crowds. One of her sons had 22 previous convictions! Another defendant claimed that the stone that the police found in his pocket was a healing stone. These rioters are not very clever.

[Philip Marlow]

Never more than a casual reader, but surely the New Statesman of my youth wasn’t quite this awful.

[davidjay]

I wonder how many will now start pleading not guilty in the hope that by the time their trial comes round the sentences might be lighter.

[satnav]

I did wonder that but the danger of pleading not guilty is that you are basically challenging the police to gather more evidence about you which would probably not end well.

[kreuzberger]

Reasoning with these cabbages is utterly pointless. They have no coherent arguments and that is why they cannot make them. All they have is a flag and, boy, what a master-stroke it was to have them all responding to a visual stimulus in order to have them fall in to line. Only, the win was never going to be anything other than short term. (Brexit)

No one is asking the miscreants to articulate what this flag actually means. You're the problem if you don't get it. Except, no. A civilised society cannot and will not accept that as a valid excuse for this blatant criminality, yet I can understand that there are few open options other than to jail them.

That said, it is still not an articulate answer. Dogs, young and old, could still be taught new tricks if only the networks of probation and remedial education hadn't been burned to the ground.

The meticulous and thorough repair of Broken Britain is a task I would envy no one.

[Oboogie]

I did wonder that but the danger of pleading not guilty is that you are basically challenging the police to gather more evidence about you which would probably not end well.

Courts consider the public interest of not holding a protracted trial. If you're guilty, it's better to plead guilty for a lighter sentence rather than drag it out and have the judge pass the maximum sentence. Something those complaining about current 'light sentences' don't understand.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

A shorter sentence for an early guilty plea is written into the sentencing guidelines.

[mattomac]

Be plenty freemen of the law types in this lot.

[Oboogie]

Newsnight showed a clip of one wailing, "But I'm white!" as the cuffs went on.

[Youngian]

Be plenty freemen of the law types in this lot.

The originator of the bogus Southport Tweet has been arrested, a renowned anti vax conspiracist and regular GBeebies talking head Bernie Spofforth. A wealthy business owner in Cheshire and oh an immigrant originally from South Africa

https://x.com/talktv/status/1466680980165570561?s=46

[Andy McDandy]

There's a strong thread of vestigial colonialism running through a lot of the cunt gang, isn't there?

[safe_timber_man]

Wow...

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