[Bones McCoy]

Cold War Steve

[Bones McCoy]

The nutshot nationalist has been set to Enter the Dragon's theme tune.

https://x.com/i/status/1819096815574151475

[Abernathy]

There often seems to be rioting on the streets of England (as far as I know, the Scots, the Welsh, nor even the Ulster folk have not thus far been inclined to the same malevolent hard-of-thinking twattery) under two sets of circumstances. :

a). At the height of summer (when nights are hot and sweaty) and

b). Just after there’s been a change of government.

Am I onto something* ?



*Fuck knows what.

[Watchman]

I waiting for how the member for Clacton responds to local residents and business owner that suffer, when it all kicks off there.

[Bones McCoy]

I waiting for how the member for Clacton responds to local residents and business owner that suffer, when it all kicks off there.

I'm sure he will "just ask some questions".

[davidjay]

I waiting for how the member for Clacton responds to local residents and business owner that suffer, when it all kicks off there.

They won't do it there.

[MisterMuncher]

There often seems to be rioting on the streets of England (as far as I know, the Scots, the Welsh, nor even the Ulster folk have not thus far been inclined to the same malevolent hard-of-thinking twattery) under two sets of circumstances. :

a). At the height of summer (when nights are hot and sweaty) and

b). Just after there’s been a change of government.

Am I onto something* ?



*Fuck knows what.

Given it's happened very similarly in Ireland in a context of the nominally lefty political side gaining ground, with similarly artificially amplified voices of "dissent" suddenly going loud after a particularly nasty crime committed by one of "themmuns", I'd say you're not alone in the feeling that you can see the strings.

[Youngian]

Right wing person discovers the Mail writes lying shite about people they don’t like politically.
Far be it from me to discourage the Mail dissing Tommeh but it’s a feeble effort. A rentaquote former spy says MI6 might well be investigating Russian connections, right let’s go with that.
https://x.com/trobinsonnewera/status/18 ... 60754?s=46

[Abernathy]

I don’t think Tommeh Ten-Names has the wit to be in the employ of Putin.

Farage, now, is a different matter. And Trump may not be (but remember the piss perversion rumours?), but he may as well be. Trump presidency 2.0 would suit Vlad down to the ground.

[Oboogie]

It's not a question of wit, it's a question of influence. Which Robinson has in spades.
Robinson has charisma and a cult following NB it's his name, not Farage's, which the far-right rioters chant.
If you want disorder on the streets of the UK, it's Robinson who can arrange it for you.

[Abernathy]

But is he taking Putin’s roubles ?

[Youngian]

Much as we’d like a smoking gun, Christopher Steele is becoming a Nick Pope* for spying. All he’s got on Farage or Tommeh is telling the Mail that investigating skullduggery from Moscow is the sort of stuff MI6 do.

* A former MOD comms officer who dealt with UFO sightings and left to start a media career writing books on X Files type bunkum. Always up for a quote on government cover ups of alien landings.

[satnav]

I get a feeling that most of Tommy Robinson's tweets are written for him by one of his flunkies. It is hard to see how somebody who is basically on the run and communicating via I-phone could write fairly lengthy well researched detailed tweets with no spelling or grammar errors.

[Oboogie]

But is he taking Putin’s roubles ?

Obviously I don't know, but political unrest in NATO countries is in Putin's interests as is anything which destabilises the West.

[safe_timber_man]

I imagine there's numerous back channels and layers of communication which distance themselves further and further away from Russia, to the point where even if Robinson is on Putin's payroll he possibly doesn't even know it. He probably thinks he's funded by an American. Honestly, I don't think he is, though. Farage almost certainly, in my opinion.

If the UK Security Service really is looking at Farage and Robinson, though, then they'll have something already. They don't just randomly decide to take a punt. If true, those two should be shitting themselves. The back peddling and attempt to distances themselves after the fact does suggest they are indeed shitting themselves and they do seem more rattled than just worrying about a few negative headlines in tabloids.

[Abernathy]

Robinson has charisma

Think I’d have to respectfully disagree, there.

[safe_timber_man]

He can string a sentence together (when not coked up) and give a rousing speech. To his lot that makes him a master orator.

[Oboogie]

Robinson has charisma

Think I’d have to respectfully disagree, there.

Of course you do, he doesn't appeal to you anymore than he does to me or the vast majority of British people, but we're not his target audience.

However, you cannot deny that he has a following of astonishing loyalty in spite of the lack of substance. The EDL achieved nothing and folded ten years ago, but people still turn out on his say so, chanting his name and idolising him. That is the mark of a cult leader, think Trump or Boris Johnson or (so I'm told) Andrew Tate - none of them have done much or delivered anything, but they inspire devotion and loyalty because they have charisma.
Robinson's talent, and yes it is a talent, is to condense complex subjects down into slogans with simplistic solutions and make them appeal to people who are either too lazy, too thick or too uneducated to comprehend the subject properly.

TL:DR Robinson's selling shit. His charisma is why people buy it.

[satnav]

I suppose the difference between Farage and Tommy Robinson is that Farage has decided to go down the parliamentry route while Robinson has stuck with the man of the people approach. Farage has always tried to make out that he is not part of the establishment but as soon as you become an MP you automatically become part of the establishment whether you like it or not.

If you are not an MP you have a lot more freedom to say or do what you want without the fear of any consequences. Tommy can promise his supporters the earth because he knows that he will never be in a position where he has to deliver on his promises.

[Abernathy]

I get that, but I could really do with Farage having to face some consequences.