[RedSparrows]

Wasn't that the subject of a book by Klein recently?

[Killer Whale]

Yes. Yes it was.

[MisterMuncher]

It's a pretty good one, too, in all fairness

[Tubby Isaacs]

I remember Ally Foog being a good writer. What does he think the Red Wall is/was? That's changed hands twice in two elections.

A safe seat is a safe seat whoever lives in it. And minority voters seems to have challenged Labour pretty well where they wanted to- I believe it was on the news. While of course lots of minority voters in cities continue to support winning Labour candidates.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Reform supporters spit at Labour candidate. Crank left- Labour's fault. I've had to block this fool, but thought I'd put this up there.

[Youngian]

I know a bit more about Labour’s Eastern region top brass than Sooz. Jovan was treated just as ruthlessly as every other candidate not in a marginal who doesn’t do as they’re told.
They appear to have a learned their management training from SPECTRE. One candidate was told: ‘We have made it clear what our expectations of you are...'
But we get it and have a laugh about it. They did make strategic mistakes by under supporting in one or two constituencies but the results speak for themselves.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I know a bit more about Labour’s Eastern region top brass than Sooz. Jovan was treated just as ruthlessly as every other candidate not in a marginal who doesn’t do as they’re told.
They appear to have a learned their management training from SPECTRE. One candidate was told: ‘We have made it clear what our expectations of you are...'
But we get it and have a laugh about it. They did make strategic mistakes by under supporting in one or two constituencies but the results speak for themselves.

Yeah, I'm struggling with "they should have gone all in on that guy who lost by 30%".

What do you see as the ones that got away? Richard Holden in Basildon and Billericay?

[Youngian]

Suffolk West as Labour were polling almost neck and neck and Norfolk SW was neglected but came through anyway. Tories only held Huntingdon by 1500 votes and a surprise win in neighbouring NW Cambs by 39 votes by the new baby of the House, 22 year old Sam Carling. Pleased to say I gave him a hand to take a break from Peterborough.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Oh shut up. The tweet said was obviously talking about what the Supreme Court judgement said. You know how we know that? It said "#SCOTUS" in it, which Nigel Farage didn't mention when he quoted it. Bastani is literally doing a Farage here (despite hypothetical he adds to obscure the fact).

[Youngian]

Bloody anti populist reporters with their ‘on the other hand so and so said this’ and fact checking that.
Aaron pays lip service to this rigour as an interviewer before moving on to the more important business of quoting himself.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Wasn't the excuse with Corbyn that he was doing "diplomacy", despite him being the backbench member for Islington North? The actual Foreign Secretary doing this seems more like diplomacy than that.

And the difference with Putin is that it's the agreed position of allies of Ukraine that they don't.

[Andy McDandy]

Yeah, and where's his fucking poppy?

[Tubby Isaacs]

They're using the fact that two MPs were murdered (plus the attempted murder of Stephen Timms) to suggest there might be a problem with the safety of MPs. This is the champion comment , albeit from an internet nobody. But there's lots of this stuff about.

[Abernathy]

Well, if they are, you can only say that not wanting to get violently assaulted or murdered must rank as a pretty fucking good excuse.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Kenan Malik called out the worrying elements in all this.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... saffection

Many of the organisations within TMV have Islamist roots, such as the Muslim Association of Britain with its links to the Muslim Brotherhood and Muslim Engagement and Development (MEND). Leading figures in the campaign have expressed support for Hamas and for hostage taking, and spewed antisemitism.

This bigotry needs confronting, as does religious sectarianism masquerading as political cause.

Given some of the goons who nearly won, we need to be hearing a lot more about this.

Malik's article isn't all or mostly about this- worth reading it all.

What is not sectarian, though, is believing in the political significance of Gaza, opposing Israel’s assault, demanding a ceasefire, supporting Palestinian freedom. Conflating political support for Palestine with religious sectarianism mirrors the arguments of Islamists, casts solidarity as illegitimate and distorts the meaning of sectarianism, weakening the battle against it

[The Weeping Angel]

Expect we'll see more of this.

[The Weeping Angel]

Wasn't sure where to put this but it concerns Akhmed Yakoob. Akhmed has somehow managed to become the legal representative of the family of the man who who was assaulted by GMP. Here he given his opinion on what happened.

Going to say that getting a lawyer who gives legal advice on tiktok may not have been the best move

[Youngian]

He was the first lawyer the victim saw when the ambulance doors at the hospital opened. This guy deserves a hard arse politically aware lawyer but Better call Akhmed is a GBNews level chancer.

[Tubby Isaacs]

He was laughing about domestic violence on his radio show. Such is his gravitas.

[The Weeping Angel]

Apparently the family have dispensed with his services.