[Tubby Isaacs]

She's not quite saying that, I don't think. I think she's complaining about Christians caring about refugees. Surprised she didn't add "when the church concentrated on saving souls".

[Bones McCoy]

"When Christian charity nursed and educated the masses", i.e. when it was someone else's job.

Over a century ago.

And they nursed and educated damn few of the masses.

[Killer Whale]

She's not quite saying that, I don't think.

I think the main thing she's saying is that yer average Torygraph reader in his (his, absolutely) seventies is not completely out of touch and the kidz agree with all of their nasty prejudices.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

I'm 75 and I certainly can't remember a time when 'Christian Charity' educated and nursed the masses...
I reckon I would have to be at least 160 to remember that.

[RedSparrows]

Are they banging on about Rowntree and co?

i.e. people they'd call 'fucking woke do gooders' now?

i.e. the people whose work contributed, as did Dickens and war and Tory ineptitude and expansion of the franchise etc etc, to a desire for reform, and so 1945 and all that (even as, yes, the whole country was NOT on board...)?

i.e. a history totally different from the nostalgia-witch brew the Torygraph quaffs each morning?

[Bones McCoy]

I'm 75 and I certainly can't remember a time when 'Christian Charity' educated and nursed the masses...
I reckon I would have to be at least 160 to remember that.

1834 New Poor Law

1908 Old Age Pensions

1909 Labour Exchanges and Minimum Wage

1911 Sickness and Unemployment Benefit

1942 Beveridge Rport

1944 Butler Act, Secondary Education for all.

1945 Child Benefit

1946 Better Unemployment and sickness benefits

1948 National Health Service


I've got a tea towel.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

You missed the 1870 Education Act.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Are they banging on about Rowntree and co?

i.e. people they'd call 'fucking woke do gooders' now?

i.e. the people whose work contributed, as did Dickens and war and Tory ineptitude and expansion of the franchise etc etc, to a desire for reform, and so 1945 and all that (even as, yes, the whole country was NOT on board...)?

i.e. a history totally different from the nostalgia-witch brew the Torygraph quaffs each morning?

Yeah, I think that this might be it.

[Watchman]

Christian charities were very much of the “deserving poor” mentality, well only offer you charity if you devote the rest of your life to the Sky fairy, and by the way it also gives us permission to abuse your children

[davidjay]

Forgetting, of course, the identity of the most famous refugee family in history.

[Bones McCoy]

Forgetting, of course, the identity of the most famous refugee family in history.

The Millibands?

The Von Trapps?

[davidjay]

Forgetting, of course, the identity of the most famous refugee family in history.

The Millibands?

The Von Trapps?

Joseph, Mary and their little lad.

[Killer Whale]

Forgetting, of course, the identity of the most famous refugee family in history.

The Millibands?

The Von Trapps?

Joseph, Mary and their little lad.

Her little lad.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

And the wee donkey?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Lying liar Allison Pearson (and Toby Young) are already hitting their stride. Next up "Labour's given an amnesty to illegal immigrants" - ie processed asylum claims the Tories hid off the books.

You'll also be amazed to hear these aren't murderers or people sentenced for violent offences.