:sunglasses: 28.6 % :pray: 14.3 % :laughing: 32.1 % :cry: 25 %
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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She's unpopular with the left of the party, I hear.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#71244
Oboogie wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:44 pm Doesn't the Supreme Court's ruling mean that, if the sitting President were to order the assignation of a political rival, he would have immunity from prosecution?
Just a thought.
Wasn't it Jonathan Tetzel who sold a German nobleman an indulgence for crimes he might commit, and later the nobleman robbed him of all his takings and got away with it?
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By Abernathy
#71254
Frankly, the whole concept of presidential immunity stinks. The cunt that dreamed it up should be boiled in oil (if he's not already dead). Just thinking about it objectively, it is absurd and totally offensive. Biden is right to observe that the supreme court judgement seems tailored to suit Trump by the very "conservative" supreme court members that he opportunistically appointed when he was in office. Presumably with something like this scenario in mind. The absolute cunt.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#71257
Exactly so. As Biden noted in his reply, in the USA they don't have kings.

By this ruling not only kings, but Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. Perhaps proper Americans will respond like true Romans did. But who will be their Lucius Junius Brutus?
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By Crabcakes
#71285
Hopefully this blatant over-reach will end up backfiring and push a lot more independents, decent republicans (seemingly a dying breed) and undecideds over to the Dems.

This, plus some of the details of the shenanigans CNN pulled at the debate (giving Trump more time, more flattering camera angles, setting the lighting so Trump looked more normal but Biden consequently looked pale), make it look enormously like the Biden age story from the debate was queued up to help distract from this travesty. I’m trying not to get too tinfoil hat, but it’s *very* convenient, and the GOP are now openly cheating and setting up for a Trump all-but-in-name dictatorship so there is no way this isn’t something they’d try and do.

The USA is in serious, serious trouble.
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By Andy McDandy
#71290
Trump hasn't yet declared a running mate, has he?

While I can imagine not many Republican senators signing up, after what happened to Pence, I've a feeling where this is going.

He's going to name one of his fucking kids as running mate. As VP. He wants a fucking dynasty.
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By Crabcakes
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Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 2:51 pm Trump hasn't yet declared a running mate, has he?

While I can imagine not many Republican senators signing up, after what happened to Pence, I've a feeling where this is going.

He's going to name one of his fucking kids as running mate. As VP. He wants a fucking dynasty.
The only one with anything even approaching something you could very generously describe as a suggestion of credibility or competence - Ivanka - seems to have decided to get right out of the spotlight in terms of involvement with her dad's schemes. Desperate Don Jr. is a pathetic cokehead who'd literally eat his own shit on live TV if he thought it'd get him one iota of respect from his father, Barron is too young, and Tiffany and Eric combined have the IQ of a handful of cold gravel and would be a liability. But more crucially none of them have any personal pull or appeal, and Trump is such a narcissist he probably couldn't care less about a dynasty - he doesn't think about anyone following on because that would require him to think about someone else. If they aren't of use to him in that job, they're not getting it regardless of who they are. So it'll either be someone who he thinks can bring in votes or someone who is such a suck-up he knows they'll take the fall for him for stuff. Though after the SCOTUS bollocks of yesterday, he doesn't really need anyone to take the fall for him anymore.
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Hey American voters, what a time to be alive
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is fending off claims that he once ate a barbecued dog.
Responding to allegations in a Vanity Fair article, he said that the carcass was that of a goat.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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Magnificent in his eloquent outrage...

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By Malcolm Armsteen
#72046
I know...
It flashes a 1-second glimpse and then it's gone...

Halp!
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By Abernathy
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I’ve Seen Joe Biden Up Close. Nobody Can Deny His Decline.

IN PLAIN SIGHT

I have seen two declining presidents. First Ronald Reagan, now Joe Biden. For each man, the reality is undeniable.

Joanna Coles

Chief Creative And Content Officer, Daily Beast



White Houses, for decades, have denied presidential illnesses: FDR’s polio; JFK’s Addisons; Reagan’s Alzheimer’s, and now, perhaps, Biden’s decline. The power of the American presidency is incompatible with human frailty; it’s something I have seen close up, twice.

Some 30 years ago I was dispatched by The Guardian to write a piece about Ronald Reagan. He was in London to deliver a speech and even though he had been out of office for five years it still felt like a plum assignment for a young reporter. He was an American president after all and his swarm of security and their long black limos dwarfed the narrow Bloomsbury streets.

The room was in thrall as he strode towards the podium. What followed I have never forgotten. It was 20 minutes of that world-famous baritone speaking words, lots of words, words that individually made sense and that I recognized, but words he had strung together that made absolutely no sense at all.

Ronald Reagan standing behind Nancy in 1992

Reagan, seen in London in 1992 with Nancy, had been the subject of denials about his mental state when he was in the White House. But after, his decline was visible in public, and when I reported from a speech he gave in London, it was painfully obvious.



At first I assumed it was me. This must be such an important speech that I was somehow not smart enough to grasp it. I looked around for other audience reaction but no one caught my eye. I began to panic. What was I going to write? Why couldn’t I understand him? And then I listened and watched and realized it wasn’t me. Incredibly, for all the posse he had around him, for all the black cars blocking the street below, it was him. The American president wasn’t making sense!

I got back to the office with a written copy of the speech that one of his aides had handed out and which I duly wrote up. I also described the bewildering disconnect of what I heard and what he had been supposed to say. The editor slapped on a headline: “Has the Gipper Gone Gaga?” (Gaga is British slang for not making sense any more.) It was the days before social media. Nobody had a camera, much less a video of Reagan’s speech.

Shortly after, Reagan announced he was retiring from public duties: “I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life.”

Three months ago I had the honor of being invited to the White House. It was an afternoon tea for creators and Joe Biden arrived to speak to us. There’s no mistaking the electricity that surrounds an American president and his entourage, but once again, there was something off. This time I could see it. He walked with a stiff, hesitant gait, each step deliberate and labored.

As he tried to turn around, his movements were slow and specific, almost as if he were caught in a frame-by-frame sequence. Each shift of his feet seemed to require immense effort, and his torso followed with a measured, painstaking precision. Despite the struggle, he managed to talk to everyone in the room, maintaining eye contact as he turned, ensuring no one felt left out of the conversation.

The change since I had last seen him in person was dramatic. I had met the Bidens on several occasions during his vice presidency. Once, at a lunch, hearing after I had become an American citizen only the week before, he interrupted the larger conversation to thank me “for coming over to our side.”

Another time, at the vice president’s residence, the Old Naval Observatory, he wrestled my younger son into a headlock. In the photos we are all laughing. Another time he gave my older son a full 15 minutes on how to stand for class president. It’s hard to imagine a more natural politician. It’s hard to see one more changed.

It’s not hard, however, to look online and match the Biden I saw to possible conditions, particularly the complex known as Parkinsonism–an umbrella term which includes Parkinson’s Disease and other neurological conditions.



Biden was at a White House reception for creators, among them impressionist Matt Friend, when I saw him. The sense of physical deterioration was unmistakable.

MichaelJFox.org, the actor’s foundation which raises awareness and money to treat Parkinson’s Disease, points out that doctors can often initially diagnose a Parkinson’s patient simply by the way they move. According to the foundation, the main symptoms are “stiffness (rigidity)”; “slowness (bradykinesia): decrease in spontaneous and voluntary movement; may include slower walking, less arm swinging while walking, or decreased blinking or facial expression”; and “speech problems: speaking in a soft and monotone voice and sometimes slurring words or mumbling. Sometimes speech sounds breathy or hoarse. People with Parkinson's might slur words, mumble or trail off at the end of a sentence.”

Now The New York Times reports that a specialist in Parkinson’s disease from the Walter Reed Medical Center visited the White House eight times in eight months from last summer to this spring, consulting with the president’s doctor at least once. The White House press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, strongly denied Monday that the president has Parkinson’s. “Has the president been treated for Parkinson’s? No. Is he being treated for Parkinson’s? No. He’s not. Is he taking medication for Parkinson’s? No,” she said.

The Biden I saw was stiff, his movements precise. His decline from when I last had seen him was obvious. He was speaking at a White House reception for creators and Jeffrey Katzenberg, his top Hollywood fundraiser was right behind him.

Up close it was impossible not to notice the changes in our 81-year-old president. We can all see Biden is markedly older and has suffered a heartbreaking deterioration. His strange leaning, as if for support, on King Charles during his U.K. state visit; his middle-distance stare and frozen stance in the Juneteenth video when everyone else was dancing; his catastrophic performance during the 9 p.m. CNN debate.

Reagan, with his ever-youthful appearance thanks to dyed hair and horse-riding, managed to keep his illness hidden from public view until after his presidency, even in London at the speech I reported on. In contrast, certain diseases reveal their presence through unmistakable symptoms that are difficult to conceal, making the struggle evident to all who watch.

I am not a doctor. Even those of us who have seen him close up don’t know the president’s true medical diagnosis. But unlike Reagan’s, don’t let this be the decline that dare not speak its name.
It's quite hard to understand just why Biden is so vehemently doubling down on his insistence that he is fit, well, and vigorous enough to run for, win , and serve another term, when he is very clearly nothing of the kind. Surely a dignified announcement that he has received an expert medical diagnosis of Parkinson's (or whatever it is), and is therefore withdrawing from the presidential race, would elicit widespread respect and sympathy, and allow the Democrats to get a new candidate in in good time to beat Trump.? He is definitely missing a trick, here.
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By The Weeping Angel
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1. If the Democrats do decide on a new candidate it will Kamala Harris they won't have a convention and tear each other apart for the amusement of the press.

2. Biden's own doctor released a letter saying just why a Parkinson's specialists was visiting the White House and that he (Biden) doesn't actually have Parkinson's disease



3. The New York Times is a terrible publication.
By Youngian
#72553
It's quite hard to understand just why Biden is so vehemently doubling down on his insistence that he is fit, well, and vigorous enough to run for, win , and serve another term, when he is very clearly nothing of the kind.
He won’t be the first stubborn old coot who refuses to quit. They’re what Hollywood legends get to play in their 80s.
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By The Weeping Angel
#72555
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:45 pm They don't have to tear each other apart at convention. Sanders won't run and in any case was very constructive v Biden. There's not really a younger equivalent to rally around.
No but there's a sizable portion of the press that want them to.
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By Crabcakes
#72565
There seem to be 2 narratives here:

1. Biden really has some serious issues with cognitive decline and is refusing to back down from ego or whatever.

2. (a) Biden has no issues outside of being an older person with a stutter doing one of the hardest jobs in the world (and - on record alone - doing it remarkably well) while also campaigning, but (b) there is a media push for this to fuel a story in particular from Murdoch-owned outfits, and the GOP are amplifying it because they want it to harm him and also think they can force any replacement candidate off the ballot/wipe out the dems fundraising with legal challenges and friendly state legislatures.

There is some evidence for both scenarios, and some evidence against. The difficulty is I believe regardless of whether 1 is true, part (b) of 2 is definitely true, and the GOP would try and cheat the living bejesus out of it, in full knowledge that if any issues get to SCOTUS they have a guaranteed win in their favour. There is also the point that Biden appears to be closing the polling gap with Trump *despite* the media frenzy, that the dems are outraising the GOP (and huge amounts of GOP money are being siphoned off by Trump anyway), and that it's leading increasingly to the same competence questions to be asked of Trump (who is *clearly* declined, with no mitigating circumstances).

I genuinely think the Dems are better sticking with Biden because I don't think a replacement - even Harris, who would swerve some issues in terms of access to funds because she's already on the ticket - would even get a remotely clear, fair run. Elect him, beat Trump, and then if he does give out mentally Harris steps in anyway. A replacement other than Harris - almost certainly a white man - will lose them swathes of black and female voters who will feel betrayed.
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