[Youngian]

He’s got some front, I’ll give him that.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/9nG1FxD6sZU14U8F/?

[davidjay]

It is for the people of Ireland alone - the thing that no-one on his side seems able to address is that the people seem likely to give them an answer they don't like.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I mentioned this on the other thread, and obviously, I think Humza is a disingenuous twat, But Jez's idiocy still biting Labour on the arse. And it is Jez. The ommitment (£54bn ) was tagged on after the manifesto was launched.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I see we're back on to "Philosopher King Jez was ahead of his time".

Taxing improvements in (otherwise stagnant) productivity doesn't seem like a particularly good idea, as some BTL points out.

[Youngian]

Corbyn and many others like Bill Gates have a point. The wages paid to workers provide taxes to pay for pensions. Whose pockets will that money go into when technology replaces these workers?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Employment hasn't obviously been hit though, even in 2024, let alone in 2017 when Jez announced it.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I recall that the no-hope Socialist Party candidate in 2017, Hamon, had the same policy. I suppose it was understandable for a guy flailing about while Macron and Melenchon at up his voters on either side. I think it's a bit different for Jez, who was the Leader of the Opposition.

This theme is often linked with UBI. I wonder if that's what Jez was thinking of, and McDonnell pointed out he didn't really want to be going into an election with "Labour's £100bn tax bombshell", so just the tax was left.

[Youngian]

I’m constantly told that comparing AI doom mongers to farriers and horse dealers predicting new fangled motorcars will destroy jobs is complacent and not the same thing.

[Tubby Isaacs]

It's above my pay grade, but I don't see any sign of it yet.

[kreuzberger]

AI was something I first came across in the 1990s and found profoundly interesting until three months ago. Now, I use it in the shape of rather inappropriately named Chatbots to churn out vast tracts of content in my (distant) second language which are then peer-reviewed and passed largely without edits.

My genuinely lovely employers are convinced that I am the oracle for all-things bassoon, oboe, bass-clarinet, and obscure saxophone innovation.

At a meta level, this is a vast transfer of knowledge via a largely clueless conduit. On a day-to-day basis, it's just a job, albeit not one for a dedicated professional and a specialist translator.

[The Weeping Angel]

I see we're back on to "Philosopher King Jez was ahead of his time".

Taxing improvements in (otherwise stagnant) productivity doesn't seem like a particularly good idea, as some BTL points out.

When it comes to AI I'm not sure what to think. Should I be worried about it? or should I think it's nothing to worry about I just don't know. I'm sceptical about UBI though.

[davidjay]

On the right side of history again.

[Youngian]

Alice Roberts and Tony Robinson, bastards!

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Jason's a proper little shithead, isn't he?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Oh man.

About all we're missing is Philip Madoc in a German accent telling Alice Roberts that her name will also go on the list.

[Abernathy]

“Frank Owen’s Legendary Paintbrush” = terminally tedious cunt who once read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists an thinks he’s a “socialist”.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Yep.

[davidjay]

It's one of life's great dilemmas - how the Cult seems to consist almost exclusively of people whose lives are consumed by politics yet who know nothing about how it works.

[mattomac]

I remember throughout the last year or two you’d get tireless posts after another council election loss that a town council election hadn’t been reported.

And it was usually one from 3 weeks back.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Labour doing something sensible to counter a threat- that's terrible, Steve. If only you lot had done the same with regard to the Tories, instead of deciding that what swing voters could be won over with more socialism.

Who denied that the Greens were going to take votes off Labour anyway? And independents get votes from everybody. Or does he think that all independents are left of Labour? That'll be news in Castle Point, where there are 39 of them.