[Andy McDandy]

Just say it, Sebastian. You want a sex farm. No shame in admitting it, just be honest.

[Watchman]

Who worked at the Royal Mail Group, as IT lead. Then went to Fujitsu UK as CEO and is now the Crown Rep for the cabinet office advising on defences contracts with BAE systems and is also married to the secretary of state for education. Micheal Keegan.

Didn't realise the link was this blatant

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Payne?

[Watchman]

Keegan

[Youngian]

Here's Big Seb, in the latest in his quest for a safe seat.

This sounds not unlike big tax increases to me.

But not those chavy girls who just get pregnant to get a council house

Payne lists some good ideas to help parenthood and some countries have measures that are even more generous. Very little evidence they can reverse the global trend towards falling birthrates in urbanised economies.

[Andy McDandy]

Going by the unscientific sample of my circle of friends, our childlessness can be explained by "Too expensive and have you seen the state of the world - you'd be a nutter to bring a kid into it".

[Bones McCoy]

Here's Big Seb, in the latest in his quest for a safe seat.

This sounds not unlike big tax increases to me.

But not those chavy girls who just get pregnant to get a council house

Payne lists some good ideas to help parenthood and some countries have measures that are even more generous. Very little evidence they can reverse the global trend towards falling birthrates in urbanised economies.

The thread reads like a socialist manifesto too hot for Starmer to handle.

Once you realise there's no real intention to deliver these things (in the forms described) you wonder about the underlying agenda.
* Appeal to white supremacists (Them are the only ones having kids).
* Rile up Mumsnet ahead of their evening Prosecco / Social media binge.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Miriam Maduro calls for state control of private industry,

[Bones McCoy]

Much more of this and Sunak's manifesto will outline his Five Year Plan.

[Crabcakes]

Tories complain to Musk about fact checking on Twitter exposing their lies. Fact checking on Twitter then exposes their complaint is itself a lie. Musk ignores them, which will make Sunak sad as I suspect he thought they were besties now. Lovely.

https://www.thepoke.com/2024/01/10/cons ... ity-notes/

[Youngian]

Your prize for voting Tory in any circumstance. A free hit for Vicky.

Biscathorpe: 'National need' for oil justifies drilling decision

A planning inspector has upheld an appeal to allow drilling for oil in the Lincolnshire Wolds, despite finding the development would harm the landscape.

Local Conservative MP Victoria Atkins, Natural England, Historic England, five nearby parish councils and other organisations also objected to the plans.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... 320060.amp

[Andy McDandy]

Well, at least it's not one of those weedy, effeminate, hippyish wind farms.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

It's a proper manly drink, oil.

[Watchman]

Sir Bob Stewart, the MP, raised almost £20,000 in crowdfunding to help cover legal costs and a fine associated with his conviction for racially abusing an activist.

Isn't it depressing that disgraced former Tory MP Stewart could raise this kind of money from other British citizens to cover his racially aggravated public order offence, for which he was fined £600, and ordered to pay costs? It wasn't as if this diehard anti woke crusader wasn't rolling in money already.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Demography isn't destiny necessarily, because if it were the "libertarian leftist 60s party" would be the government or opposition. But this is very striking. Perhaps relying on the oldest voters isn't a great idea. Even if it;s worked very well since 2015.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Ha ha. Is Bob Seely going to run on this on the Isle of Wight?!

I suppose that senators in the US South run successfully on this sort of talk, but they don't actually vote for budgets with it in.

[Tubby Isaacs]

The still seatless Seb is putting in sterling service to the cause, fair enough.

These contextless numbers aren't exactly hindering populism either, are they, Seb? As Rob Ford says, the public aren't very good when asked to pluck numbers out of the air- nor am I, in fairness. When you ask about specific migration, they want more of lots of it, even for low paid (and virtually all private) hospitality sector.

[Andy McDandy]

People furious about migration are going to be furious no matter what the numbers. They're furious full stop.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Oh man. Not even Zahawi tried this. At the end of this thread (in which nothing Neidle said is refuted) comes this.

Tomorrow she's going to expose Dan Neidle's role in... working as a corporate tax adviser. I'm sure this will be rigorously peer-reviewed stuff, not just "he advised someone who paid zero on millions of profits" bollocks. And anyway, the issue was that she and her husband seemed to break the law. The issue wasn't that Dan Neidle said it.

Given her previous standards, I wouldn't rule out libel tmrw.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Be fair though, she's properly got Neidle here. Lawyer commenting on law is "jumping on the bandwagon". "Even tampons" because the issue was the VAT cut. But he did comment on "government benefits". Heck. That would be disqualifying. If he even has- more likely he was commenting on who a tax policy would benefit.