[Watchman]

I was reminded elsewhere, that a previous Home Secretary, was sacked for having clandestine meetings with the Israeli government.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Apparently Ian Paisley (DUP) has rushed to her defence.

She's fucked...

[Bones McCoy]

I know one should never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity, but in this case I think she's done both.

I think she (or whichever SpAd has her social media duty) genuinely believes the summer marches are pro-Independence (and pro-IRA, overlooking the many many republicans who have nothing to do with IRA/SF), or that enough of her fan club will think bloody Irish, all the same.

I think were back with chanelling again.
When you're a "My team, right or wrong; ultra" you assume that everybody else is playing the same zero sum game.
It's a thoroughly irrational position, but many go down that rabbithole.

Once you're crossed that Rubicon, then "taking one of theirs down, no matter who gets hurt" seems a ratonal stratgy.

[Crabcakes]

No 10 (note: not Sunak by name) has disowned the article and says it wasn’t cleared. Of course nothing is happening because Sunak is a coward and doesn’t want to fire the starting gun on his replacement. But seems it was absolutely a bid for leadership of the soon to be renamed Bigot Party.

[davidjay]

I know one should never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity, but in this case I think she's done both.

I think she (or whichever SpAd has her social media duty) genuinely believes the summer marches are pro-Independence (and pro-IRA, overlooking the many many republicans who have nothing to do with IRA/SF), or that enough of her fan club will think bloody Irish, all the same.

A layman might be confused by a situation whereby not very nice people march to pledge their allegiance to a country that, on the whole, doesn't want them. A layman probably shouldn't be Home Secretary although, as you say, her outpourings lately have tended to be aimed at the sort of bar-room philosophers whose world views doubtless include tow the bloody lot out and sink them.

[MisterMuncher]

Does anyone here reckon scenes akin to an eleventh night bonfire, replete with Israeli flags and effigies, were to occur next week, the march would go ahead, or any future march of similar intent?

How about if a few lads rocked up round midnight, and fired off a few rounds?

Maybe ban the London march gets banned, and the supporters kill a few kids in protest, but ones everywhere else would get to go ahead?

Braverman's comparison is fucking stupid, but the idea that somehow it's the marchers of Northern Ireland that are insulted by it is absolute bollocks

[Abernathy]

I hear the EDL lads are warming up to come down and give those disrespectful hate-marching (thanks, Rishi & Sweller) towel-heads a lesson at the weekend. That’ll show ‘em, eh ?

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Some of those lads marching for Palestine will be Pathans.

I used to teach a class of Pathans. I wouldn't mess with them...

[Crabcakes]

Assuming she’s not out of a job by Monday anyway, I reckon literally *anything* happening at the weekend will see her push for some new law that lets the HS directly decide on whether any march over a certain size can take place rather than the local police. Plus I’m sure a raft of anti-protest laws that may as well say ‘no poofs, no forrins, no hippies’.

And once again, I remain bewildered that - even for someone as stupid as Braverman - she cannot see that the endgame of the abhorrent people and groups she’s so desperate to appeal to would be to remove her from office and deport her. Or more likely, some fate much worse. Tommy Robinson doesn’t want to be her mate even as she eggs him and his goons on. Tommy Robinson wants her to cover for him until a dark time when he can pop round her house with a length of rope and make an example of her.

[satnav]

It would be funny if the Tories introduced tighter rules on marches in London just before they get booted out of office. Then the Tories would have to tolerate a Labour government with very little scope to protest about it.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Now they mention it, Gove hasn't had one of the big four jobs, has he? Education is probably the biggest, which I'd put behind Health as well. I'm actually OK with him replacing Braverman.

[Spoonman]

It would be funny if the Tories introduced tighter rules on marches in London just before they get booted out of office. Then the Tories would have to tolerate a Labour government with very little scope to protest about it.

Oh they'd whinge plenty about it, as such/rules don't apply to "them".

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Now they mention it, Gove hasn't had one of the big four jobs, has he? Education is probably the biggest, which I'd put behind Health as well. I'm actually OK with him replacing Braverman.

Man's a cunt.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Yeah, but Braverman. He's also deeply unpopular with the public, and not likely to raise Tory polling too much.

[satnav]

It would be funny to have Gove as Home Secretary with his ex-wife churning out articles in the Mail accusing of being weak on Pro-Palestine marchers.

[davidjay]

Assuming she’s not out of a job by Monday anyway, I reckon literally *anything* happening at the weekend will see her push for some new law that lets the HS directly decide on whether any march over a certain size can take place rather than the local police. Plus I’m sure a raft of anti-protest laws that may as well say ‘no poofs, no forrins, no hippies’.

And once again, I remain bewildered that - even for someone as stupid as Braverman - she cannot see that the endgame of the abhorrent people and groups she’s so desperate to appeal to would be to remove her from office and deport her. Or more likely, some fate much worse. Tommy Robinson doesn’t want to be her mate even as she eggs him and his goons on. Tommy Robinson wants her to cover for him until a dark time when he can pop round her house with a length of rope and make an example of her.

Whenever the far right get into power it's always in part by making useful idiots think it's not them they're after, it's the wrong 'uns. It's no different to scab unions or the SA - you're alright, it's the others, then when you're no longer any use you can get over there with the others.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Actually, can Gove be Home Secretary with his on the record history of breaking class A drugs laws? Isn''t he going to be asked about that rather a lot?

[satnav]

I would have thought all the journalist who gave Johnson a free pass because he was one of their own would do exactly the same for Gove.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Didn't help Gove when he was running for leader.

[Bones McCoy]

It would be funny if the Tories introduced tighter rules on marches in London just before they get booted out of office. Then the Tories would have to tolerate a Labour government with very little scope to protest about it.

Tories don't march to protest.
They write editorials or complain during their television shows.