- Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:53 pm
#56467
About time this has its own thread, it's all kicked off today with the evidence of PPS and PS at Nº10.
Marty Reynolds (Party Marty - 'bring your own booze', 'no it's OK I can run the inquiry on the parties', 'oh shit...') has been dropping shit from a great altitude onto Johnson and especially Cummings, but also Williamson and especially Hancock.
It seems that (completely coincidentally) just before Johnson announced a Covid enquiry Marty changed all the WhatsApp group preferences to 'disappearing messages' so that incriminating stuff would all be automatically deleted after 7 days... However he seems to have a faulty memory, he can't remember such things. And anyway it was all Simon Case's fault.
It seems that Johnson didn't realise his WhatsApp messages and emails could be archived and seen later, in an enquiry. There is evidence that Reynolds was going to 'battle' him over this, but he now doesn't remember.
Asked why Johnson did not chair the early COBRA meetings Marty couldn't remember. When asked if anyone was tracking the risks Marty said that was someone else's job.
An exchange on that:
Marty Reynolds (Party Marty - 'bring your own booze', 'no it's OK I can run the inquiry on the parties', 'oh shit...') has been dropping shit from a great altitude onto Johnson and especially Cummings, but also Williamson and especially Hancock.
It seems that (completely coincidentally) just before Johnson announced a Covid enquiry Marty changed all the WhatsApp group preferences to 'disappearing messages' so that incriminating stuff would all be automatically deleted after 7 days... However he seems to have a faulty memory, he can't remember such things. And anyway it was all Simon Case's fault.
It seems that Johnson didn't realise his WhatsApp messages and emails could be archived and seen later, in an enquiry. There is evidence that Reynolds was going to 'battle' him over this, but he now doesn't remember.
Asked why Johnson did not chair the early COBRA meetings Marty couldn't remember. When asked if anyone was tracking the risks Marty said that was someone else's job.
An exchange on that:
Q - Keith KC: Did you not feel it was you job to educate yourself on the issues and take part in this debate?
Reynolds says it was not self-evident to him that having the health secretary chair the meeting was wrong.
Keith says he was not saying it was wrong for Hancock to chair the meeting. He asks why Reynolds was not getting more information himself.
Reynolds says, looking at the email exchange, he cannot tell what questions he was asking.
Keith asks Reynolds to confirm that in early March No 10 did not have plans to deal with a Covid pandemic.To be continued...
Reynolds says he is not expert enough to say what plans were there, but structures were in place.
Q: But there was no proper plan in place?
After being pressed on this forcefully, Reynolds accepts this.
Here is how the key exchange went.
Keith asked:
The reality at the beginning of March after four or five weeks of warnings was it became apparent that there was no plan in the form of the NHS or the GHSE for dealing with a coronavirus pandemic, yes or no?
Reynolds replied:
Reynolds:
I think the plan wasn’t sophisticated enough to deal with the crisis it was facing, I don’t think I can answer whether there was no plan.
Keith continued:
There was no plan for coronavirus, was there, Mr Reynolds? You know there wasn’t.
You know as a matter of strategy there had never been any debate about coronavirus – the United Kingdom’s strategy was based expressly on a pandemic influenza. Do you agree there was no plan for coronavirus?
Reynolds replied:
I’m not sufficiently expert to say whether the plans which were pre-existing were replicable for the nature of the crisis … and to what extent.
Keith went on:
In Number 10, there was an appreciation at the beginning of March that there were no plans to bring together activities of the other government departments, yes or no?
Reynolds responded:
We had the existing structures and they were inadequate for what we were dealing with …
Keith interrupted:
Did you have plans to deal with the crisis which had broken upon the United Kingdom government in the first week in March?”
And Reynolds replied:
As I say, there is a standard set of protocols, which is Cabinet Office protocols for dealing with crisis – where I agree with you is they were inadequate to deal with the nature of the crisis we were confronted with.
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