:sunglasses: 37.5 % :pray: 12.5 % :laughing: 50 %
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By The Weeping Angel
#5349
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:49 pm The proper online left have are on the case. Kim Leadbetter is a Tory because she thinks recurring spending should generally be funded from tax and fees, rather than just borrowed forever.

I dunno, Aaron. Maybe all the governments in the world are missing this easy MMT/ "na na na debt" approach of yours. Perhaps Bangladesh could have a British NHS if it sacked all the neoliberal squares in the finance ministry.

Yeah I saw that just more bad faith criticism from Aaron.
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By The Weeping Angel
#5352
If you want see some real bad faith check out this video from Politics Joe.



1. Oli Dugmore can't pronounce Kim's surname.

2. They hung around her like creeps trying to intimadate her.

3. Shakeel Afsar whom they call an anti-LGBT activist personally i prefer to call him a bigot.

4. They blatently ignore the part when Afsar shouts vote for him do not vote for Labour whilst pointing at Galloway.

5. They then ask Galloway softball questions.
By Youngian
#5366
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:49 pm The proper online left have are on the case. Kim Leadbetter is a Tory because she thinks recurring spending should generally be funded from tax and fees, rather than just borrowed forever.

I dunno, Aaron. Maybe all the governments in the world are missing this easy MMT/ "na na na debt" approach of yours. Perhaps Bangladesh could have a British NHS if it sacked all the neoliberal squares in the finance ministry.
Even if you could just print or borrow away the public sector wage bill with no consequences, best not to mention it to voters. They’ll think you’re daft as a brush.
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By Crabcakes
#5372
Galloway and Williamson have become the political equivalent of actors who played a small role in a sci-fi/fantasy film who then spend the rest of their careers at ever smaller and crapper conventions playing for ever more hardcore fans. Only instead of catchphrases and signing dvds while pretending they’re still waiting for that big career break and this is just filling time, they just have to go more and more extreme and contort themselves ever more ridiculously to avoid having to face the fact they’re now cranks.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#5379
One of McDonnell's wise men shows up in an effort of stopping this nonsense. Big Simon has a few pops before he loses the will to live.

One thing I do give credit to the previous Labour regime is that they didn't disappear down this rabbit hole. There's a fair amount of this about, and it could easy have got a significant hold. McDonnell got experts in early on and went with mainstream Keynsian macro.

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By The Weeping Angel
#5382
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:51 pm I mean, even if you thought Galloway had been unfairly maligned here, is that really the big issue?

Why would anyone associate Galloway with this ranting queerbasher? It's totally unfair.

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Not to mention that in the video Shakeel Afsar (the activist in question) is seen shouting Vote for anyone but Labour, vote for him whilst pointing at Galloway.
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By Arrowhead
#5455
Perhaps it is merely expectation management, but the Guardian are reporting that some Labour figures are now putting their chances of retaining the seat as low as five per cent.

With any luck, Burgon or Butler will trigger another leadership challenge and get their arses handed back to them even more emphatically than last time.
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By Cyclist
#5483
Crabcakes wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:53 am

Hopefully Boris’s recent callousness and Hancock’s shenanigans will have both dented the Tories and made some people think more about what exactly a vote for Galloway really costs.
I doubt it. Never underestimate the inGurLiSh pubLikes capacity for stupid.
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By Andy McDandy
#5487
Crabcakes wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:53 am I suspect the Times is being mischievous.

Hopefully Boris’s recent callousness and Hancock’s shenanigans will have both dented the Tories and made some people think more about what exactly a vote for Galloway really costs.
Saw that. No attributable quotes, just lots of public domain general facts (a by-election loss will be bad etc) and what-ifs.
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By The Weeping Angel
#5499
Crabcakes wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:53 am I suspect the Times is being mischievous.

Hopefully Boris’s recent callousness and Hancock’s shenanigans will have both dented the Tories and made some people think more about what exactly a vote for Galloway really costs.
One key thing to note from that survation poll is that they're a lot of undecided voters.
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