[Tubby Isaacs]

[Boiler]

[Oboogie]

The Underground Railroad in 19th century America was definitely woke, however it wasn't a real railway.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Back in the day we had the Great Woke Railway, the Lovely Nice and Ethical Railway, the Sympathetic Railway, and the Loving Special Moments Railway.

Even the locomotives were tenderer.

[Boiler]

Mmm... you might like to revisit the LMS there.

[Tubby Isaacs]

This is going to be really open minded social science, judging from the title.

[Boiler]

Not sure, but as I was nodding off last night I think Lawrie Taylor was talking about this very subject on "Thinking Allowed"...

[Youngian]

Is an MA in anti-woke studies one of those Mickey Mouse degrees the Mail chunters about?

[satnav]

A Mickey Mouse degree at a private Mickey Mouse university.

[Boiler]

"The home of the two year degree", it claims?

[Bones McCoy]

"The home of the two year degree", it claims?

Year One: All the things that are woke.
Year Two: All the things that became woke since year one.


Shades of Trump University, and Prager U.

[Samanfur]

I'd like to see Lawrence Fox et al pick this particular fight, wouldn't you?

[Tubby Isaacs]

This bloke seems to be building a bit of a profile. He's a proper philosopher.

Advertising in "optimistic and inclusive vibe that appeals to younger consumers" shock. Does he think ad agencies are run by teenagers? Or that the younger people who work for them can afford to live in Zone 1?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Alas, he doesn't have time to mention the profitable companies he's run.

A fair few used to criticise Benetton adverts back in the day. But I can't remember anyone saying the adverts were nonsense because mixed race families (or whatever) didn't shop at Benetton.

[Yug]

Wrong Konstantin. Just about everything businesses do is about profit. If they didn't think they'd increase profits on the back of this they wouldn't spend the money on doing it.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Well, no doubt he has formidable business experience to build on with this.

I'm old enough to remember when tobacco sponsored 3 out of the 4 main cricket competitions. Did Konstantin think "sponsoring this healthy sporting activity has nothing to do with smoking, so must be woke!"

[Boiler]

Wrong Konstantin. Just about everything businesses do is about profit. If they didn't think they'd increase profits on the back of this they wouldn't spend the money on doing it.

I got thrown off a forum for describing Kisin as a cunt.

[Bones McCoy]

Once again we have the "accusation as confession" in action.

Inhabitant of the thinktank / alt-right infrastructure: Where wealthy spaff money on wingnut welfare.

Assumes every business operates a political fighting fund.

[Youngian]

Advertisers have always incorporated the political zeitgeist, recall an ad as a kid with a shouty shop steward asking are you with me brothers? And the workers shout back ‘No, we’re with the Woolwich.’ By the 80s George Cole in spiv mode was advertising building society accounts.

[Youngian]

John Stuart Cleese on the failure of liberalism. It’s the fault of the wokes who won’t debate anything and are like Pol Pot. If Harold Wilson thought Tony Benn immatured with age he had seen nothing compared what would become of that bright talented young man who plays Basil Fawlty
https://www.threads.net/@gbnews/post/Cz ... IwNjQ2YQ==

A couple of interesting perspectives on wokeness on R4’s Thinking Aloud. A dull US philosopher Susan Neiman who’s spends too much time on campuses overthinking the subject. And a more down to earth UK POV from a lecturer who concludes its a load of wiffle hyped up by right wing dafties.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001q ... are-mobile