[Youngian]

If Kruger hasn’t set Tory pulses racing

[Andy McDandy]

Can we have this shadow government running things, please? They seem to be quite competent.

[Rosvanian]

Read a couple of things along the lines of "OK, so they disagree with us - but why do they call us Tory scum?". It reminds me of the Mitchell and Webb sketch where they're Nazi officers. "What if we're the bad guys?" And no, I'm not calli g the Tories Nazis. Well, not all of them.

[Andy McDandy]

They are fucking insane. I just had a read of the Grauniad's roundup.

Truss is saying that by cutting taxes (her answer to everything) they can build half a million homes a year. When asked which taxes, she says "a range". Details, eh?

Harper is blethering on about cutting councils off the DVLA database so they can't charge parking fines. Also saying he'll fiddle with traffic lights so cars can get about easier.

Huw Merriman (trains minister) gets into row with a local Tory over HS2. Blethers a lot.

Lucy Frazer (culture) rails against those who "would apply a two dimensional filter of moralist outrage on actions or statements, rather than understanding the nuance of language, or the context of history", by saying Labour want to ban Churchill.

And for some reason Fargle is holding court. I'm sorry - in what capacity is he there? Media personality? Party member?

[Youngian]

And for some reason Fargle is holding court. I'm sorry - in what capacity is he there?

Press pass, he’s a roving reporter for GBN.

[Youngian]

They are fucking insane. I just had a read of the Grauniad's roundup.

Truss is saying that by cutting taxes (her answer to everything) they can build half a million homes a year. When asked which taxes, she says "a range". Details, eh?

Harper is blethering on about cutting councils off the DVLA database so they can't charge parking fines. Also saying he'll fiddle with traffic lights so cars can get about easier.

Huw Merriman (trains minister) gets into row with a local Tory over HS2. Blethers a lot.

Lucy Frazer (culture) rails against those who "would apply a two dimensional filter of moralist outrage on actions or statements, rather than understanding the nuance of language, or the context of history", by saying Labour want to ban Churchill.

And for some reason Fargle is holding court. I'm sorry - in what capacity is he there? Media personality? Party member?

This conference would be a very frightening political event but as the Tories are toast next year, it’s Pythonesque comedy gold.

Hunt’s on now and someone’s written him some lame jokes. ‘I will make Britain a science superpower,’ isn’t one of them.

[Boiler]

PLEASE do not assume Labour will win. It really is NOT a done deal, no matter what the polls say - the only one that counts is the GE itself.

Everything else is irrelevant and a GE could be fourteen months away.

[Youngian]

PLEASE do not assume Labour will win. It really is NOT a done deal, no matter what the polls say - the only one that counts is the GE itself.

Everything else is irrelevant and a GE could be fourteen months away.

If they’re still in government for CPC24 and ahead in the polls your prediction powers will be duly noted.

[Boiler]

PLEASE do not assume Labour will win. It really is NOT a done deal, no matter what the polls say - the only one that counts is the GE itself.

Everything else is irrelevant and a GE could be fourteen months away.

If they’re still in government for CPC24 and ahead in the polls your prediction powers will be duly noted.

To which I will say: 1992.

[Youngian]

You think Starmer will rest on opinion poll laurels or repeat Kinnock’s hubris?
I see no economic, political or personality parallels with 1992.

[Yug]

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[Youngian]

Prefer comment and analysis based on plausible evidence to faith. But faith is still preferable to banal knee jerk contradiction.

[Boiler]

I work on the general premise of thinking the worst because then I am not disappointed when things turns to shit and at the moment there is plenty for me to be negative about. The one time I was encouraged - almost forcibly - to be positive was the night Mrs. B died.

So I hope you'll excuse my Eeyorish tendencies.

[Rosvanian]

I work on the general premise of thinking the worst because then I am not disappointed when things turns to shit and at the moment there is plenty for me to be negative about. The one time I was encouraged - almost forcibly - to be positive was the night Mrs. B died.

So I hope you'll excuse my Eeyorish tendencies.

I think your concerns are well founded. After all, they're taking kids' phones off them, scrapping inheritance tax and letting everyone drive around like maniacs. If that doesn't bring legions of joyfully embittered Tory voters back into the fold, then nothing will.

[Boiler]

Policy is now set by Daily Mail/Telegraph editorial. But just remember how many people read the Mail and readily align with its thinking, especially online.

[Youngian]

Anyone who suffered premature death of someone so close gets that. Some go to the opposite end of the spectrum to cope by shutting down and never mentioning the trauma. Both can be destructive to themselves and those around them if they haven’t worked through their grief.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Hang on, what? Is eating meat now part of the cuture war?

[satnav]

Clearly the Tories have got time to turn things around in the polls but pushing back the election to the last possible minute comes with plenty of danger. There are few signs that the world economy is going improve dramatically in the next 12 months. So Sunak could find himself in the same position as Gordon Brown fighting an election with the economy in recession. Another problem is the number of MPs standing down at the next election, at what point do these MPs start to focus on their next job rather than serving their constituents. If lots of Tory MPs behave like Nadine Dorries a lot of relatively seats could be in danger.

There also seems to be a lot of manoeuvring from the likes of Patel and Truss and Gove at the moment, if Sunak is still unpopular in 6 months time could we actually see an attempt to bring down Rishi and replace him with one of the headbangers?

Sunak has failed to win over parts of his party and the country, it is hard to see at this stage how he can change that situation.

[Andy McDandy]

Hang on, what? Is eating meat now part of the cuture war?

Nobody tell her that most Hindus are vegetarian.......

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Hang on, what? Is eating meat now part of the cuture war?

Nobody tell her that most Hindus are vegetarian.......

And Buddhists...