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By Tubby Isaacs
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Tory fury as ministers axe key levelling up pledge to move civil servants from London
Offices in Birmingham and Newcastle said to no longer align with strategic requirements
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rvice-jobs

Political stardust from Rishi, who stuck a precise number on it which will be failed by a mile.

I'm surprised they're being honest about this. They could have taken over a couple of Wernham Hogg-sized offices, stuck a few people in to answer the phones and claimed that a thousand others had been moved there but were "currently working remotely".
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By Boiler
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Of Europe, I found myself listening to this in the car on my way home and it's well worth fourteen minutes of your time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b096g0x4

Robert Birley's 1949 Reith lecture series, "Britain in Europe", remain urgently topical today. Sarah Montague discusses the lectures with Professor Anand Menon. The Reith Lectures began in 1948 on the Home Service, subsequently moving to Radio 4 and becoming a major national occasion for intellectual debate. As part of the celebrations of Radio 4's 50th anniversary, the network looks back at the first 10 years of the Reith Lectures to explore how they reflect the times in which they were delivered and how well they stand up now. Birley was headmaster of Eton who had worked in postwar Germany. In his lectures, he looked forward to what he described as a European Union and discussed how far Britain would become integrated in it. Sarah assesses his lectures with the help of Anand Menon, who heads The UK In A Changing Europe thinktank.
By Youngian
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Boiler wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:48 pm Of Europe, I found myself listening to this in the car on my way home and it's well worth fourteen minutes of your time.

Most of the post war governing class in the late 40s were Edwardians, Atlee and Bevan were more blinkered and parochial about the limits of British power than the Tories. Churchill ironically was the most forward thinking on Britain’s European future. He was heckled as a traitor at pro European meetings by the League of Empire Loyalists as UKIP was known back then.
By Youngian
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:56 pm How many people do they think are going to be sent to Rwanda? 8 members of the Cabinet think that's worth shitting on major treaties for?
It’s Brexit 2.0, a shittier sequel to a shitty original feature like Bad Boys 2. I doubt Starmer will play which is a dismal reflection of the electoral system we’re lumbered with.
By Bones McCoy
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:56 pm How many people do they think are going to be sent to Rwanda? 8 members of the Cabinet think that's worth shitting on major treaties for?
I'm unclear about differences between "Cabinet" and "Government", but during the various Johnson vote-downs it was revealed that over 100 MPs were bound to support him through cabinet responsibility.

In this context, 8 members is barely sufficient piss to cover the bottom of the pot.
By Youngian
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mattomac wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:45 pm It’s quite common and evidently Sunak knows of it, just not quite well enough.
I can see an X Factor judge saying it after a contestant blurts out that slightly creepy Bob Dylan composition that Adele sings.

The Lionesses got to meet the Queen of Spain. The UK sent culture secretary Lucy Fraser.
Is snubbing wimmin’s football part of the Tories’s War on Woke?
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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mattomac wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:45 pm It’s quite common and evidently Sunak knows of it, just not quite well enough.
I know of it in two forms:

To leave nothing on the table - to go all-in, probably from playing poker, to put all of one's assets (or whatever) up. Can be analogised to fields or whatever. To go for broke with everything at your disposal.

To leave something on the table - to leave some wriggle room, in. negotiations, for example, or to make an offer to be considered by the other party.
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By Abernathy
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:15 am
mattomac wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:45 pm It’s quite common and evidently Sunak knows of it, just not quite well enough.
I know of it in two forms:

To leave nothing on the table - to go all-in, probably from playing poker, to put all of one's assets (or whatever) up. Can be analogised to fields or whatever. To go for broke with everything at your disposal.

To leave something on the table - to leave some wriggle room, in. negotiations, for example, or to make an offer to be considered by the other party.
I've heard the latter, but not the former.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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In the context of negotiations. May simply be an inversion of the latter, for effect.
By Bones McCoy
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mattomac wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:45 pm It’s quite common and evidently Sunak knows of it, just not quite well enough.
It's a common accolade in footballing circles (or endurance sports) for the plucky loser.

Alphas like Sunak don't associate with losers, so we can't expect him to understand the term.

In fact "leaving anything out there" is an alien concept.
Rishi will have a few men sent along to pick up after him.
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