- Fri May 05, 2023 9:54 pm
#43699
More "bad news for Sir Keir", from someone else who's not heard of tactical voting.
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:14 pm“The Labour leader doesn’t face a much tougher challenge like I’d like you to believe, but I’m rapidly running out of straws to grasp at so here you go”
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:10 pm Disappointed by his stance on the protest bill. It’s an easy win to say it needs to be repealed because it’s too far reaching, especially at a time when trust in the police is so low. Even a lot of Tories are saying this, so coming out and stating he’d not touch it is bewildering. It’s a shit law made by a shit, authoritarian Home Secretary and a weak PM pandering to bigots. What the hell is a Labour leader with a very solid grounding in law doing supporting it?The one thing that Labour have been shaky on from 2001 onwards has been civil liberties. It could be handled by saying there's so much to put right it may have to wait until a second term, but anything else is heading into very dangerous territory.
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:17 pm He isn't. As far as I can tell he said he would wait to see how it bedded down, and it wouldn't be enforced in the same way. An incoming Labour government would have more pressing matters to deal with.There are bits of the act which are good, it needs amending, not repealing. It's not a priority because it affects so few people compared to eg the cost of living crisis and health.
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:35 pm How has Labour been 'shaky' on civil liberties? For over 20 years?Refusing to repeal the bill that meant the football membership scheme could be introduced without a vote, then there was the talk about identity cards circa John Reid as Home Secretary, while it was at this time that private policing started to ramp up. Maybe I read these things wrong, but they rarely reassure me in this area.
davidjay wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 10:31 pmThat's a helluva bad record for 20 years...Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:35 pm How has Labour been 'shaky' on civil liberties? For over 20 years?Refusing to repeal the bill that meant the football membership scheme could be introduced without a vote, then there was the talk about identity cards circa John Reid as Home Secretary, while it was at this time that private policing started to ramp up. Maybe I read these things wrong, but they rarely reassure me in this area.
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