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By Yug
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This is one of the voters the Tories are chasing

A UKIP councillor has denied posting racist, anti-semitic and anti-women posts on a messaging group, claiming "someone must be imitating" him.

Messages on an anonymous chat account allegedly linked to Tendring District Council member Peter Cawthron used the n-word to describe a black woman on the London Underground.

The account also posted that "Jews have the monopoly on fake holocausts".

The council said no formal complaint had been made.

The posts were made under the pseudonym "Whites Are The New Greens" on Telegram, an encrypted instant messaging application.

The BBC has seen posts in which images of a Tendring District Council ID badge appear, with the user's name redacted.

Also included in the post on the Telegram account was the message: "I wore this at the last council meeting."

Mr Cawthron's WhatsApp profile picture was the same as one of the profile pictures of the Telegram accounts "Whites Are The New Greens".

When approached by the BBC, Mr Cawthron said "I don't know who that is" and that he did not know what "Whites Are The New Greens" meant.

"I think someone must be imitating me," he added...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-64982663

His life was hacked, apparently.
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By AOB
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Thirteen men appear in court charged with serious child grooming sex offences

Horrific stuff. I'm sure Stephen Yaxley-Lennon will head to Bolton to demand Jamie, Ross, Elliott, Callum, Brandon, Thomas, etc are thrown off British streets to keep youngsters safe. After all, it's the safeguarding of children he's passionate about, isn't it? Isn't it?
By Bones McCoy
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AOB wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:16 pm Thirteen men appear in court charged with serious child grooming sex offences

Horrific stuff. I'm sure Stephen Yaxley-Lennon will head to Bolton to demand Jamie, Ross, Elliott, Callum, Brandon, Thomas, etc are thrown off British streets to keep youngsters safe. After all, it's the safeguarding of children he's passionate about, isn't it? Isn't it?
Not only Lennon, plenty far closer to the levers of government.
The convictions come after the home secretary, Suella Braverman, said “almost all” members of grooming gangs were British Pakistani men who held attitudes incompatible with British values.
Will Braverman retract her statement?
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By Andy McDandy
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... ed-replace

The Brecon Beacons national park has been renamed Bannau Brycheiniog. Cue outrage from one Harry Mount, which sounds like it should be rhyming slang for something nasty. In fact he appears to be a relative of David Cameron, former Bullingdonian, failed lawyer, right wing commentator and professional contrarian.
In June 2013, Bloomsbury published The Wit and Wisdom of Boris Johnson, edited and introduced by Mount.
Anyway, he's not a fan of the change. For, erm, reasons. It's quite a patchy argument, boiling down to "It's a bit more difficult for me to pronounce".
Park bosses also argue that the change to a Welsh name promotes the area's culture and heritage. Fair enough, but why not keep the English name we all know the area by alongside the Welsh? That would be too reasonable, of course. It is now to be known officially only by its Welsh name.
There's then a dig at Michael Sheen (for reasons), and the standard "how much is this costing?" whine.
And so this national park has been condemned to be known as something both unpronounceable and unmemorable.......Catchy it is not. Indeed, I would bet a pound to a penny that it will go the way of Uluru, the Aboriginal name for Ayers Rock, that conspicuously failed to gain traction in Australia following its introduction in 1993.
Fuck right off part one. Uluru is gaining in use, and at least white Australia is for the most part trying to make amends for its past treatment of aboriginal cultures.
Only a literal-minded, cold-hearted fool would insist that our miraculous, lovely place names — many of which date back over 2,000 years to a time before the Romans turned up — should be dull, meticulously correct references to a place's history and geography.

But the crashingly dull wokerati refuse to accept how powerfully evocative they are to people who've used them all their lives, have heard them said by their parents and grandparents, and read them in centuries-old books.
Fuck right off part 2 - as someone who did a fucking dissertation on place names in the Welsh marches (true!) I can tell you that the proportion of place names in the UK that date to before the Roman occupation is between fuck and all, and what can be traced back that far is exclusively Celtic.

Also, note that he's using the appeal to familiarity here. Thousands of years old, evocative, grandad's knee.
The mountains were originally called the Brecknock Beacons in the 18th century. Yes, they were known as Bannau Brycheiniog before that, in the 16th century, as defenders of the name change will tell you at length.

But to turn the clock back 500 years is as nuts as the decision last year by the Snowdonia National Park to use the Welsh name Yr Wyddfa for the mountain we all think of as Mount Snowdon.

In 50 years of visiting the Brecon Beacons, I've never heard them referred to as Bannau Brycheiniog. And what of Brecon, the beautiful market town that lies at the foot of the Brecon Beacons? Are the name-changing zealots going to change its name to Brycheiniog, too?
Ted Heath's loopy Local Government Act of 1972. It replaced the ancient, harmonious names of Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire, for example, which were incorporated into one vast county called Dyfed.
Names such as Dyfed, Powys and Gwent predate Brecknockshire, Carmarthenshire and Monmouthshire, cunt chops.
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By Yug
#42670
So it's a case of 'Overprivileged unintelligent English twat cannot get his head around the concept of non-English people calling parts of their own country names in a language that isn't English'.

Has he ever been abroad?
By Youngian
#42675
So he does want the restoration of ancient names with local resonance. In Rutland but not for Taffies with their funny names you can’t pronounce.
Ted Heath's loopy Local Government Act of 1972. It replaced the ancient, harmonious names of Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire, for example, which were incorporated into one vast county called Dyfed.
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By Bones McCoy
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There's one like that on a wargame forum I frequent.
The soldiers who train there won't be able to pronounce it.
They have no problem with "unpronounceable" battle honours sourced from 90% of the world.
Also the assumption that it's the English army.


We don't get this kind of fuss for renamings like the Elizabeth Tower, or the inevitable flood of "King Charles ..." stuff..
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By Andy McDandy
#42678
See also Hitchens complaining about questions on University Challenge referring to Mumbai or Beijing, or to "not really real because they used to be ours" places in Africa.
By Bones McCoy
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Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:43 am See also Hitchens complaining about questions on University Challenge referring to Mumbai or Beijing, or to "not really real because they used to be ours" places in Africa.
But it isn't a problem when it's Tommy Robinson, Michael Green or Corinne Fox.
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By Youngian
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Bones McCoy wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:35 am There's one like that on a wargame forum I frequent.
The soldiers who train there won't be able to pronounce it.
They have no problem with "unpronounceable" battle honours sourced from 90% of the world.
Also the assumption that it's the English army.
Searching my grandad’s war record, an archivist at a regimental museum got shirty with me when I pointed out he hadn’t served in France as he was claiming because Mons and Ypres are in Belgium. “It’s the same thing,” I was assured curtly. Just trying to help.
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By Spoonman
#42698
Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:02 am Fuck right off part one. Uluru is gaining in use, and at least white Australia is for the most part trying to make amends for its past treatment of aboriginal cultures.
See also Denali, formerly Mt. McKinley in Alaska.
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By Spoonman
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kreuzberger wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:03 pm Are all of these pronounced Siobhan?
Cobh - "Cove"
Dun Laoghaire - "Dun Leary" or "Dun Lira" (as in the old Italian currency)
Laois - "Leash" or "Leesh" (an anarchic English spelling is "Leix", pronounced the same way)
Offaly - "Offaly" (pronounced like "awfully" but with emphasis on the "Off" bit)

As for girls names, just wait until you meet Méabh, Aoífe, Naimh, Róis, Órfhlaith, Grainne, Aoibhinn, Cobhlaith, Áine, Caoimhe, Brid, Eilish, Deirbhile, Máiréad etc. and yes I know at least one woman or girl from each name mentioned. In the past I used to coach girls Gaelic football, filling in the team sheets was great fun! :lol:
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