[Spoonman]

A classic case here of the toilet-floater that this thread is named after being an almost-perfect definition of the phrase "Empty vessels make the most noise" and that's being kind.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Lee's on food banks again. His dad worked 7 days a week down the pit, and they grew vegetables and kept chickens. That was their food bank!

He seriously said that. Can you spot a problem with that at all? Apart from most likely lying abut his Dad.

[Watchman]

Doesn’t 30p remember, a few years ago the likes of the Lawson family wouldn’t give him the shit off their shoes

[Tubby Isaacs]

Lee didn't allow replies to his latest homily on food banks.

[soulboy]

Lee's on food banks again. His dad worked 7 days a week down the pit, and they grew vegetables and kept chickens. That was their food bank!

He seriously said that. Can you spot a problem with that at all? Apart from most likely lying abut his Dad.

My Grandad grew vegetables, had several apples trees, and had both chickens and beehives.

If you had the 300K for a one bedroom flat where Bee Cottage used to be you could have a spud planter on the balcony and cross your fingers for a decent crop of tomatoes and chillies at the back end of a warm summer.

Other than that, the Good Life awaits.

[Andy McDandy]

Seems to be riffing on an old Kinnock speech ("...work 8 hours down the pit then come up and play rugby..."), which was later "homaged" by Joe Biden.

That or various Python Yorkshiremen.

[davidjay]

The party of aspiration, yet they want their grandchildren to struggle as much as they did.

[Youngian]

Seems to be riffing on an old Kinnock speech ("...work 8 hours down the pit then come up and play rugby..."), which was later "homaged" by Joe Biden.

“It was a lonely life,” Biden continued, “No one else had heard of rugby.”
Strange to think the current POTUS was a pretty well known bit part comedy politician in Britain 35 years ago.

Up and coming on Lee’s agenda:
Bring back the cane in schools
Get rid of metric measurements
Slash the mental health budget in favour of a kick up the backside.

[MisterMuncher]

The party of aspiration, yet they want their grandchildren to struggle as much as they did.

They want *your* grandchildren to struggle.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

The party of aspiration, yet they want their grandchildren to struggle as much as they did.

They want *your* grandchildren to struggle.

Exactly. It's about gaining and maintaining privilege.

[Bones McCoy]

A classic case here of the toilet-floater that this thread is named after being an almost-perfect definition of the phrase "Empty vessels make the most noise" and that's being kind.

Another I enjoy around these plastic hard-men: "Big dogs don't yap".

[davidjay]

The party of aspiration, yet they want their grandchildren to struggle as much as they did.

They want *your* grandchildren to struggle.

Exactly. It's about gaining and maintaining privilege.

I'm not sure about that. These sociopathic wankers seem to me that they'd send their own grandchildren up chimneys to prove the point that they had it harder. The over-riding force in their lives seems to be aa visceral hatred of anyone who smacks of privilege.

[davidjay]

They want *your* grandchildren to struggle.

Exactly. It's about gaining and maintaining privilege.

I'm not sure about that. These sociopathic wankers seem to me that they'd send their own grandchildren up chimneys to prove the point that they had it harder. The over-riding force in their lives seems to be a visceral hatred of anyone who smacks of privilege.

[Crabcakes]

When your entire ideology is about making yourself as comfortable, wealthy and powerful as possible then it’s inevitable that the circle of others you want to carry with you will get ever smaller.

[Crabcakes]

I’m strongly starting to suspect 30p Lee was brought in for his strong tendency to lie profusely

[Watchman]

Once a scab, always a scab

[Dalem Lake]

He did a sterling job of masking that license plate

[Yug]

Looking at him I'd say you can't call him a scab any more. The scab's fallen off and left that ugly blob of walking scar tissue.

[Crabcakes]

My great grandad worked down t’pit before they had safety regs so probably *did* work the hours Lee claims his dad did, and then some. He didn’t keep chickens because he couldn’t afford them. And when he wasn’t down the pit he was conscripted into fighting wars for rich people because he was considered disposable. He lived to 96 and voted Labour all his life precisely because of arseholes like Lee who, when they weren’t sucking up to the bosses, were bullying and belittling people less able to stick up for themselves. And his son - my grandad - had a better life than him but never forgot why, and also voted Labour his whole life. I suspect Lee’s dad might do something quite different in the privacy of a poll booth than what he tells his pub bore son.

(Admittedly my dad had a better life still, was the first to go to university and had a career in banking, and consequently voted Tory or worse for years because of association with some of the dullest, most out of touch shits I’ve ever had the misfortune to occasionally come across. But even the best genes occasionally skip a generation )

[Tubby Isaacs]

Your Dad wasn't that unusual. As Dennis Healey observed (I think) that lots of that Labour had helped win freedoms for its base, but that lots of them used those freedoms to become more like Tories. But even before this, there was always a big working class Tory vote. The Tories would never have won an egg and spoon race, let alone been the main party of government, if this hadn't have been true.