[Crabcakes]

Gosh, some people might think Corbyn turning a blind/indifferent eye to soft antisemitism and nudge wink statements made by people he calls allies was opening the door for the sort of blatant stuff Kanye West is now spouting, but turns out there’s actually no connection between casual antisemitism and hardcore antisemitism.

On a similar note, I’m sure Jackie Walker will be posting a tweet about how we should all cut Lady Susan Hussey a break aaaaaany minute now…

[mattomac]

Ah, I see - it’s about perpetuating the myth that a large membership is the only real indicator of a popular, worthy leader.

Wonder why that is?

Worked in 2019 that, these people are thick.

[The Weeping Angel]

[Youngian]

It gets weirder

[davidjay]

Sorry to repeat myself yet again, but we get enough of this "You can't be Labour if you've got two pennies to rub together" shit from the Tories without our own (supposed) side chipping in.

[Youngian]

Sorry to repeat myself yet again, but we get enough of this "You can't be Labour if you've got two pennies to rub together" shit from the Tories without our own (supposed) side chipping in.

The thread is even more silly, young Tories apparently. Any young person not in a donkey jacket with a ‘Coal not Dole’ sticker is a suspected Tory (grandad here isn’t up on the latest lefty looks but you get my drift).

[Andy McDandy]

They look happy and some of them have glasses. I'm not saying it's getting like the Khmer Rouge, but that seems to be enough for some Jeztitutes.

[davidjay]

Sorry to repeat myself yet again, but we get enough of this "You can't be Labour if you've got two pennies to rub together" shit from the Tories without our own (supposed) side chipping in.

The thread is even more silly, young Tories apparently. Any young person not in a donkey jacket with a ‘Coal not Dole’ sticker is a suspected Tory (grandad here isn’t up on the latest lefty looks but you get my drift).

You can't vote Labour unless you pass an exam in Socialist purity. Well known fact.

[mattomac]

Another of their bullshit lies was young people feel cheated not having Corbyn in charge, so they have to be like this when they see young people getting involved.

[Youngian]

Didn’t evidence emerge that Corbyn made no impact on Labour’s under 25 vote?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Don’t know. Brexit and Tory strategy were a gift to Labour in this period. Lucky lots couldn’t remember the earlier Kipper Jez.

[mattomac]

Also the Landlords one is odd, one of their great gems Sam Tarry is a landlord.

Speaking of him, I’ve not heard anything since his threat of a court case, but then I did mute the word “Tarry” on Twitter.

[The Weeping Angel]

Britain's 35th greatest film maker speaks out

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/d ... emy-corbyn

The film director Ken Loach has attacked the BBC for its “absolutely shameless role” in what he describes as “the destruction of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership” of the Labour party.

In an interview with Equal Times, Loach said that the BBC “played a prime role” in the departure of the former Labour leader and Corbyn’s “whole political project, that nearly became the government three years ago, has been wiped out of the public discourse.”

Loach agreed that Corbyn’s tenure as leader, which ended in 2020 after Labour’s defeat in the 2019 general election, had been “delegitimised”. He said: “They’ve rewritten history so that it doesn’t exist. It’s like the photograph of Trotsky that Stalin cut out. The man doesn’t exist in history. Jeremy Corbyn doesn’t exist in history now.”

Loach also took aim at the current leadership of the Labour party, saying “the manipulation of the rules and the straight aggression has been unbelievable. It should be unbelievable: the manipulation of rules against the left, the imposition of candidates, expulsions and the fact that at least 200,000 people as far as we know – and probably more – have left the Labour party under [Keir] Starmer. It’s not even a news story! If ever we needed a clear example of political manipulation by the broadcasters, there it is.”

[Youngian]

Britain's 35th greatest film maker speaks out

Loach’s film making is as highly regarded as Clint Eastwood’s and both can do politics well on the screen, strangely.

[Crabcakes]

Loach makes a good film. The problem is, he’s made the same one over and over again and there’s only so many times you can do “the crushingly miserable yet achingly noble poor person vs the establishment league of 2-dimensional fascist arseholes” before some of the impact is lost.

I joke somewhat, of course. But he does seem singularly unaware that the real people whose plight he depicts with his fictional characters desperately need a Labour government, and constantly re-fighting the long lost Corbyn battle is absolutely embodying that perfect is the enemy of good.

[Oboogie]

Britain's 35th greatest film maker speaks out

Loach’s film making is as highly regarded as Clint Eastwood’s and both can do politics well on the screen, strangely.

I enjoyed Kes and Land and Freedom and, although I was too young at the time, I understand Cathy Come Home was ground breaking and important. Other than that, I think he's overrated, repetitive and cliched. I would dispute that he 'does politics well' on screen as I don't believe he reaches the people who would gain from hearing his message. Just like Corbyn's rallies, people who watch Loach's films are those who don't need to.

[Abernathy]

I seem to recall that when Loach’s fillum “I, Daniel Blake”, yet another iteration of the “poverty porn” genre that Loach virtually single-handedly created, was out and was mildly successful, the Trots in my local Labour Party branch organised an outing to go and see it, as if it was fucking Raiders of the Lost Ark. I might conceivably have been persuaded to go and see it but for this (though that was still vanishingly unlikely), but that turned me right off. I ‘d rather spend an evening nailing my own scrotum to a railway sleeper.

[Oboogie]

I seem to recall that when Loach’s fillum “I, Daniel Blake”, yet another iteration of the “poverty porn” genre that Loach virtually single-handedly created, was out and was mildly successful, the Trots in my local Labour Party branch organised an outing to go and see it, as if it was fucking Raiders of the Lost Ark. I might conceivably have been persuaded to go and see it but for this (though that was still vanishingly unlikely), but that turned me right off. I ‘d rather spend an evening nailing my own scrotum to a railway sleeper.

I watched it online out of curiosity to see what the fuss was about.
As a fillum it was depressing and slow with no discernible plot, neither entertaining or informative, more of a drama documentary.
It covered the same ground that Alan Bleasdale covered 40 years ago and Loach himself covered 60 years ago, only not as effectively.
I learned nothing from it and nor should anyone with an ounce of imagination and empathy.
Who exactly needs to be told that poverty is awful and soul destroying, who is it that's unable to work that out for themselves, even if they have no direct experience?*

* it's a rhetorical question, we all know who they are, but they won't have watched it. Which is my point.

[Youngian]

It covered the same ground that Alan Bleasdale covered 40 years ago and Loach himself covered 60 years ago, only not as effectively.

And yet Daniel Blake isn’t a period piece. Haven’t seen it as I’ve already felt sick to live in a country that humiliates its citizens in this manner. He’s also explored more contemporary workplaces with contract delivery drivers and rail privitisation maintenance (rebranded as a British comedy farce in France). I like Riff-Raff which is more Bleasdale like and does have a laugh while making a point.

As for Clint Eastwood, Invictus is a highly recommended political film exploring the seriousness of leadership and exploiting a seemingly unimportant occasion for a higher national purpose.

[Crabcakes]

I ‘d rather spend an evening nailing my own scrotum to a railway sleeper.

If it was a corrupt landlord forcing you to do this, Loach would probably snap up the script.