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By The Weeping Angel
#31649
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:20 pm We have a winner. Matthew Goodwin's qualification is "coming from an ordinary background".

I'm not putting it up because some random Twitter bloke said it, but because Goodwin seems to make a lot of this himself. Is it any more "ordinary" than Woke Lefty Elitist Sir Keir?

Outside of moaning about white working class boys being held back by woke teachers what has he written about social mobility?
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By MisterMuncher
#31659
I fucking despise the idea that there's something inherent to the working class that makes them incapable of empathy toward minorities and those in the various demographic fringes. It's snobbish, reductive, patronizing bullshit and anyone espousing it is a deeply suspicious individual who, in any sane universe, would be placed in a mail bag and beaten soundly with a hurl.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#31661
True story.

When I was a kid (about 15, just starting to go to the local, very working class* boozer) a Black family moved into our street. Dad's name was Ben. He went to the aforementioned pub, where the assorted Londoners, Irishmen (all in the building trades) and others (some with rather shady occupations) welcomed him warmly, and the landlord (Irish) got in his favourite rum (Liquid Sunshine - he gave me some). Tell me about the working classes and welcoming newcomers.


* I once saw someone come in and start haranguing a bloke who was playing dominoes. Player didn't answer, he just got up, threw the haranguer into the carpark through the unopened window and sat back down to finish his game. Also a true story...
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By Tubby Isaacs
#31826
Down with identity politics! Real issue is social class!

And anyway, as pointed out BTL, this reflects the Tories having been in power a long time, and also having been dysfunctional. If they'd been like a conventional political party, Cameron would have stepped down in about 2019, and Osborne or May would be party leader now, and the current crop of non white males would be in relatively junior Cabinet roles, if that.

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By mattomac
#32382
Odd that they’ve never had a female chancellor, all that time in power.

In fact I might be incorrect but has there ever been a shadow chancellor that is female before Rachel Reeves, who will if Labour win the next election no doubt be made Chancellor. It’s a bit depressing for politics that this is the case really.

Anyhow I assume he is wanking over Sweden whilst ignoring…

Australia, Germany, Norway, USA most of central and South America including potentially Brazil later this year, though Bolosarno is hoping his attendance this week at the funeral will help him.

That could be an early headache for monarchy and Truss if he does do what some are suggesting and launches a coup on his defeat as President.

“Yeah you invited a guy who is now trying to turn Brazil into a military dictatorship”, though it’s not like they haven’t had forewarning on this.
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By Andy McDandy
#32391
The right's view of South America is basically Argies and assorted generalissimos and drug barons. As long as he remains over there and doesn't land troops at Stanley, they won't care.
By mattomac
#33248
It is literally all they have anyhow.

The problem is it’s easy when every else seems to be fine but it becomes difficult when something so tiny goes wrong, then really no one cares about which statues you are going put a wall around.

I’ve noticed it on twitter, you’ll get one bloke trying to counteract but it’s poor, some haven’t realised that they are no longer the “majority” they once believed they were.

And for a second week running it seems like the QT audience are openly laughing at them.
By Youngian
#33253
Gammons have had no idea what you’re talking about it when discussing who the real Brexit bankrollers are; libertarian globalist free market zealots. They won’t be opening new hospitals in Doncaster and they’re main view on immigration is the right for bosses to pay them less. The penny appears to be dropping.
By mattomac
#33327
That would be fine if the DKs were high but they aren’t, Labour are seeing crazy numbers on switching even in his own polling.

Goodwin won’t accept that his red wall narrative which is flimsy at best could and looks likely to fall at its first real test which is the next election, See also Sebastian Payne who wrote a book and comes out with the most garbage of takes.
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