:sunglasses: 40.6 % :pray: 8.5 % :laughing: 30.2 % 🧥 4.7 % :cry: 12.3 % :🤗 3.8 %
By Oboogie
#31254
Never underestimate how hard it is for the insecure to admit they've made a mistake, but she sounds like a brainwashed cult member.
I wonder the impact of callers like that on the millions who, in 2019, took a punt on the Tories for the first time in their lives for whatever reason. Can they really be happy with the club they've joined?
#31255
Watchman wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:45 am She’s off her fucking meds!
She is of very limited intelligence.
It's a Tory-voter characteristic.
#31257
Being charitable, she sounds like she was brought up to respect her "betters", and know her place. The late Raymond Briggs, in his graphic novel "Ethel and Ernie" (about his parents), depicted his mother just so. Despite her humble origins, she saw socialism and left wing parties as against the natural order of things, and full of jumped up people getting ideas.

When I was a teenager we had a neighbour who would proudly vote Tory (and this was the height of Major and sleaze) because she said it was disrespectful to go against the government. Not surprising there are more of them about.

The lady here seems to put great stock in Johnson's appearance and speaking style, which I've seen people describe as a "quasi-Churchillian Edwardian growl". However her claims that he "looks prime ministerial" suggest to me that she's either hallucinating, has very odd standards, or is thick as shit.
#31259
She's as thick as shit.

People in Britain seem reluctant to consider intelligence as a factor in the actions of others.
#31260
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:22 pm She's as thick as shit.

People in Britain seem reluctant to consider intelligence as a factor in the actions of others.
That’s a default position for many when they fail to grasp the other person’s argument and feelings. Having explored other possibilities with the caller she’s almost certainly daft as a brush.
#31262
Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:56 pm When I was a teenager we had a neighbour who would proudly vote Tory (and this was the height of Major and sleaze) because she said it was disrespectful to go against the government.
I can *ahem* trump that! About 30 years ago I used to work with a Scottish South African who thought that voting anything other than Tory was treason because "They're the government".
#31263
Youngian wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:25 pm
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:22 pm She's as thick as shit.

People in Britain seem reluctant to consider intelligence as a factor in the actions of others.
That’s a default position for many when they fail to grasp the other person’s argument and feelings. Having explored other possibilities with the caller she’s almost certainly daft as a brush.
She isn't daft, she just isn't very clever. That's what we have to take into account when considering her views.
#31266
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#31269
Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:56 pm Being charitable, she sounds like she was brought up to respect her "betters", and know her place. The late Raymond Briggs, in his graphic novel "Ethel and Ernie" (about his parents), depicted his mother just so. Despite her humble origins, she saw socialism and left wing parties as against the natural order of things, and full of jumped up people getting ideas.

When I was a teenager we had a neighbour who would proudly vote Tory (and this was the height of Major and sleaze) because she said it was disrespectful to go against the government. Not surprising there are more of them about.

The lady here seems to put great stock in Johnson's appearance and speaking style, which I've seen people describe as a "quasi-Churchillian Edwardian growl". However her claims that he "looks prime ministerial" suggest to me that she's either hallucinating, has very odd standards, or is thick as shit.
My dad has always said this about Cornwall, there is still a doth your hat that in other areas the Unions and industry sort of got rid of.
By satnav
#31270
Whilst Johnson made quite a few mistakes during the Covid pandemic, the pandemic did give him plenty of opportunities to address the nation flacked by scientists and other experts which clearly made him looked Prime Ministerial. Soon after becoming Prime Minister he made a big thing about visiting hospitals, he didn't make many new announcements about the NHS but he did make sure he was regularly seen to be taking an interest in the NHS. Now quite why he did this we will never know it could be his own instinct told him that neutralising the NHS would pay off come a general election or it could have come about as a result of what voters were saying in focus groups about the Tories and the NHS.

In the last year or so people have taken the piss out of Johnson because he frequently heads for the dressing up box for a good photo-op. Again this has given the impression that he's always on the go etc when in reality the visit he makes probably takes up a couple of hours a day tops. He or his advisers clearly know that in modern politics image is everything and he was very good at sticking to the script.
#31529
From today’s Guardian; the bloke has serious problems

Britain 'absolutely not' broken, says Boris Johnson

Boris Johnson has said Britain is “absolutely not” broken at the end of his premiership, and claimed that “this country has got an incredible future and has everything going for it”.

Asked outside a police station in Lewisham, south London, whether Britain “was broken” in the final days of his leadership, he responded: “Absolutely not. This country has got an incredible future and has everything going for it.

“Look at the place that people want to invest in. Which is the country that attracts more venture capital investment now than China? It’s the United Kingdom.

“Which country has, I think, more billion-pound start-up tech companies than France, than Germany, than Israel put together? It is the United Kingdom.

“Why do people want to come here? Because it is the place to be.

“What we’re doing now, and what I’m proud that we’ve done over the last three years or so, is put in a lot of things that will make this country fit for the future.”
By Oboogie
#31530
Of course Boris Johnson has a problem.
He is a compulsive liar.
Literally. It's his default.
Most (all?) of us will make up a story to get ourselves out of a corner when that seems to be the best option, but Johnson does it whether there's a benefit to him or not.
Remember when he was asked the innocuous question about how he relaxes? "Have you any hobbies PM?" and he went straight to making buses out of wine crates.
It was a jeopardy free, soft question but he went straight for a lie which nobody believed and made him look ridiculous.
He's not well.
#31533
I kind of get why politicians are wary of such questions, given that we live in an age when any sort of hobby is seen as sad or nerdy, or any preference so polarising, so it's sometimes best to stick to the bland - popular bands, football, and whatever other sport is currently being played. At its logical conclusion you get the Thick of It zeitgeist tape or David Blunkett doing Harry Potter on sleb Mastermind and revealing he had no idea about the franchise at all.

But yes, the buses... Rumour has it that he said it purely to get another result streaming if people googled "Boris Johnson bus". That isn't too plausible though - either him having that sort of tech savvy or it having the desired effect.

He strikes me as someone who literally has nothing going on inside, save a desire to eat, drink and shag. A freeloading son of a freeloader father who was taught at an early age that he could have whatever he wanted, and it was someone else's job to clear it up or pay for it.
#31535
From a Guardian article about/by playwright David Hare:
Boris Johnson, theoretically a Catholic, seems to function without any recourse to the doctrine of sin that is meant to define his religion. For him, as for most frontline politicians, the idea of regret or remorse is anathema. In his own eyes, he is dully faultless. He never reflects. His response to being caught out in any dishonesty is always automatically to further advance the dishonesty.
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