[mattomac]

It seems it will be up to the chief whip to decide any punishment, apparently one of the whips was on the picket line I don’t expect we will see anything happen.

[Tubby Isaacs]

‘Starmer’s authority collapses’ will be the next headline if he doesn’t take action. ‘Labour splits’ if he does takes action.

Yeah. I don't think either of those is particularly harmful. The Health Secretary was all but telling the Chancellor to cut taxes the other day.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Does anyone know when the corrupt bastards of the Durham Constabulary will disgorge their branes on beergate?

[mattomac]

Meanwhile Shitehawkbox has an exclusive that the MSM are covering up Starmer receiving a fine as he hasn’t replied to them to answer if he has got one or not.

[Andy McDandy]

Wor Ange was snapped earlier along with Jacinda Arden, very reminiscent of the Janene Garofalo/Uma Thurman comedy film The Truth About Cats and Dogs.

She really is quite a MPILF, isn't she?

[Arrowhead]

Does anyone know when the corrupt bastards of the Durham Constabulary will disgorge their branes on beergate?

I thought an announcement would've been made by now. How long can it take to investigate a single event?

Even if Starmer and Rayner do indeed each receive a FPN, I'm not so sure they should step down anymore. What difference would it make? Johnson seemingly won't resign in any circumstances whatsoever, so there just wouldn't seem any point.

[Boiler]

Even if Starmer and Rayner do indeed each receive a FPN, I'm not so sure they should step down anymore. What difference would it make?

The screams of "hypocrisy!" and "liars!" from the meejah after they said they would would be so loud you would hear them in outer space. Unfortunately, they have made a bed they will have to lie in.

[Andy McDandy]

Besides, I don't think the Tories really fancy seeing Johnson pitted against Cooper or a hastily promoted Burnham. Or Thornberry (oh yes, she once said something about a flag), or Nandy, or Lammy...

It's actually quite a smart and capable front bench.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Meanwhile Shitehawkbox has an exclusive that the MSM are covering up Starmer receiving a fine as he hasn’t replied to them to answer if he has got one or not.

Yes, having a busy day.
And I wouldn't reply to Skwawkbox if their arses were on fire.

[davidjay]

As sure as night folows day, another Tory scandal is followed by #beergate trending on Twitter.

[Arrowhead]

Besides, I don't think the Tories really fancy seeing Johnson pitted against Cooper or a hastily promoted Burnham. Or Thornberry (oh yes, she once said something about a flag), or Nandy, or Lammy...

It's actually quite a smart and capable front bench.

In a funny way, Cooper and Nandy are probably far better placed to deal with some of the Cornbyn crap the Tories are preparing to spray at Starmer ("Served in Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet for FIVE years", "Just another Corbyn yes-man" blah blah blah).

Nandy can point to the fact she quit Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet in 2016 following his cloth-eared reaction to the no-confidence vote (and received awful online abuse from his supporters in the process), whereas Cooper can go one further and point out she refused a position from the very start.

[Oboogie]

As sure as night folows day, another Tory scandal is followed by #beergate trending on Twitter.

Seems to have been started by Skwawkbox claiming that Starmer has been issued with a fine and refused to resign. According to the Corbynistas, the fact that the Tory media are not reporting the story is proof that Starmer is a Tory. The Tories on social media, meanwhile, are claiming that the media's silence is because it's run by Lefty Labour Luvvies.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 1d84250857

[Malcolm Armsteen]

And Dianne Abbott has weighed in...

[Abernathy]

Confession : I am starting to get ever so slightly worried about Starmer & Rayner possibly being obliged to resign. The consequences for Labour will be seismic. It could derail the entire project of getting the Tories out and Labour back in to government. It’s far from clear that any electoral benefit will accrue from it, no matter the contrast with Johnson the criminal. The one small comfort is that the prospect of electing another Corbyn as leader is now non-existent, but a typically drawn-out contest to find replacements for Keir & Angie is something I’m worried that increasingly we have neither the time nor the space for, with the next election, now at Johnson’s whim, possibly more imminent than anybody would like.

Still, fingers cossed that the gamble pays off.

[Boiler]

Confession : I am starting to get ever so slightly worried about Starmer & Rayner possibly being obliged to resign. The consequences for Labour will be seismic. It could derail the entire project of getting the Tories out and Labour back in to government.

If (when) it happens, the crowing from both sides of the political spectrum will be fucking unbearable and I'm inclined to say "for what?" Very few politicians deserve the title of "honourable" any more, it's seen by the Right as a weakness now.

TBQH I was resigned to Labour not winning in 2024 anyway but if this does happen, you can bet your bottom dollar Johnson will call a snap GE just to get him towards late 2027, even with a reduced majority.

I just wish the cartload of monkeys that calls itself Durham Constabulary would pull its thumb out of its arsehole - maybe they've been told to sit on their findings, who knows?

[davidjay]

If the worst comes to the worst it will legitimise the thing that Johnson's supporters use to defend him more than anything else - they're all at it.

[Watchman]

If Starmer and Rayner offered to resign, does that offer have to be accepted?

[Malcolm Armsteen]

I suppose not.

I do wonder if there was some clever wording...

[Crabcakes]

I don’t think Johnson would risk a snap election now even if Starmer does have to resign. People are sick of him - giving him an election win would be more of him.

Also, I wonder if Starmer might refuse to accept Rayner’s resignation on the grounds the buck stops with him. Could leave her free to stand as a sole leader.

[Abernathy]

Who does the leader of the party submit his resignation to?

The NEC, I suppose. Who may well be disinclined to accept it. The reward for Starmer’s resignation seems negligible, the damage risk of declining to accept a resignation from Starmer also negligible. After all, it’ll merely be one more front, of hundreds, that the Tories will attack us on.