Crabcakes wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:14 pm
Boiler wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:09 am
At the risk of being condemned, let's be realistic here: these are protest votes. T&H will return to the Tories at the next GE, Wakefield might not.
And Johnson still has a huge majority.
I think yes, there’s got to be some level of realism here. But - it wasn’t just a win or scraping home. It was comfortably clear, and the incumbent always has an advantage. If Johnson is still leader at the GE - and there are no signs of him suddenly developing a sense of shame or decency - there’s every reason to think the same thing will happen again; not least of which being nothing pisses off protest voters like not being listened to. If he’s still there and has ignored ‘the message’, then he’s not just risking further protest. He’s risking turning people away for good.
The traditional conservative voter is used to being courted. What they’re not used to and what they don’t like is a cheat and a liar trying to get them to be furious about issues they simply don’t care about while they get poorer and less well treated week on week.
This isn’t so much a canary in the coal mine as a whole flock of albatrosses.
Dead on. This is a re-run of Johnson saying that he took “full responsibility” for the Partygate shitstorm, then taking absolutely fuck all responsibility. Now he’s saying that he will listen to the voters, but simultaneously indicating that he’s just going to carry on being the biggest most corrupt, useless cunt of a political leader since Pol Pot. You’re right, I think, that it’s entirely plausible that if Johnson is still there come the election, the sort of tactical voting that delivered the 30% swing in Tiverton, particularly if, as seems more and more likely, Starmer and Davey strike the same sort of informal agreement that Blair and Ashdown were able to reach, to the benefit of both parties, in 1997, could be emulated in Tory seats right across England.
This really ought to be uppermost in the deliberations of the executive of the 1922 committee.
Johnson could of course, press his nuclear button and declare war on Putin. And I’m only half joking when I say that.
"The opportunity to serve our country: that is all we ask.” John Smith, May 11, 1994.