Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:40 pm Problem here. She's a PPS, covered by the order on the memo.Doesn’t have to join the picket line to show her support. But make it about yourself rather than thinking through the consequences. Which is making the story about Starmer, the No 1 thing he is trying to prevent the Tories from doing.
Boiler wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:10 pm A Marina Hyde article people probably won't be so keen to read.I dunno. I appreciate Starmer is often walking a tightrope. It does feel like that tightrope is sometimes all of 3 inches off the ground though and about as exciting as the live feed from a pitch drop experiment. A bit more passion (which I suspect he actually feels, but tactically suppresses) wouldn’t go amiss now and again.
Dear Keir, people say that after Johnson a bit of boring would be nice. Unfortunately, people lie.
Is it that the Labour leader can’t pull together a vision, or that he won’t? Or that he won’t because he can’t? Until he does, the best thing Keir Starmer has going for him is Boris Johnson, and the best thing Boris Johnson has going for him is Keir Starmer. What an unpromising symbiosis. If you wanted a tagline for prime minister’s questions, you could do worse than “the unwatchable v the unbearable”.
Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:40 pmStarmer seems to have let this slide, rightly. I wonder if this is such a problem for Sir Keir. He's the guy who urges all sides together and says what the government are doing wrong, other people in Labour have a different emphasis. If Javid can basically say Sunak's wrong for not handing out tax cuts, does anyone care about a few PPSs?
Doesn’t have to join the picket line to show her support. But make it about yourself rather than thinking through the consequences. Which is making the story about Starmer, the No 1 thing he is trying to prevent the Tories from doing.
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:19 pm Looks like Starmer's going to allow the frontbenchers showing up to pickets thing to slide. Fair enough. Nobody really cares if a PPS shows up to a protest. Lots may like it.I think the problem is a lot of members see the role of leader as just sticking it to the Tories.
This is part of a much longer thread on inflation, unions, strikes, the economy. This isn't a criticism of unions, or their leaders, but I think it illustrates that the Labour leaders job is a bit harder than pitching up at picket lines. You've got to balance that with other things. And you've got to convince the electorate you can balance these things. Just hold Bozo to account.
Keir Starmer is expected to discipline at least five Labour frontbenchers who defied his orders and appeared on RMT picket lines on Tuesday in solidarity with striking railworkers.Literally nobody cares that the shadow paperclips minister showed up at a picket line.
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:34 pm Don't do this, Sir Keir.Best option would be to give them a slap on the wrist.
Keir Starmer is expected to discipline at least five Labour frontbenchers who defied his orders and appeared on RMT picket lines on Tuesday in solidarity with striking railworkers.Literally nobody cares that the shadow paperclips minister showed up at a picket line.
mattomac wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:43 pm Be a bit silly for Labour to do anything beyond just a warning.If only Emily Thornberry had been this astute in her news appearance earlier:
We will face more strikes and it will get more difficult to not appear in solidarity, this one is pretty easy as it’s the RMT and they are non-affiliated . I think it would be stupid but sadly I feel in recent weeks Labour are doing a fair bit of stupid. Leaks here and there about what they are dropping without any alternative to what they will come up with.
Labour striked the right tone as suggested by polling this is a fight the Conservatives have started, let’s not blow a chance to get rid of them by petty party infighting.
I might even write to him, it’s a fight that isn’t needed, our energies need to be elsewhere.
mattomac wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:36 am I’m starting to wonder if anything was even briefed now the trains shadow minister says he didn’t receive an email.Yeah in her article she doesn't mention the word banned once. Rodgers was known for stirring by trying to get clicks and always made sure to get a comment from Momentum.
Hmm, I’ve always had some issues with Rodgers and her handling of Labour List.
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