By Youngian
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mattomac wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:35 am The same article spoke of Barry Gardiner being a compromise candidate, only Barry Gardiner would think of that.
Its the Corbynite version of the black knight from the Holy Grail hobbling on one leg; ‘Alright let’s compromise, its your last chance.’
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By Tubby Isaacs
#25043
I might be getting hubristic here, but I wonder if the Tories could have a problem in Westminster. Obviously, it's an iconic Tory council that can turn voters out because council tax is low. But I wonder how much of that will take a hit from the £6m spent on the artificial hill at Marble Arch.

The Tories won a seat landslide on the back of a 1.7% lead on vote share. Even more surprisingly, the Tories have lots of very large leads where the did win. But equally the Westminster election in 2019 (not a good year for Labour) wasn't very good for the Tories in the two constituencies (though they won one on the back of split opposition).
By mattomac
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Apparently they’ve pulled all resource out of Barnet and are shoving it all into Wandsworth, make of that what you will but you probably wouldn’t do that if you felt you had lost one and are struggling to hold another.

A friend of mine said he was confident on Wandsworth so it must be dire in Barnet.

A lot of these predictions have been fantasy stuff but they could easily get a sizeable amount, I was thinking 200+ would be a good night.
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By The Weeping Angel
#25063
mattomac wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 7:41 pm Apparently they’ve pulled all resource out of Barnet and are shoving it all into Wandsworth, make of that what you will but you probably wouldn’t do that if you felt you had lost one and are struggling to hold another.

A friend of mine said he was confident on Wandsworth so it must be dire in Barnet.

A lot of these predictions have been fantasy stuff but they could easily get a sizeable amount, I was thinking 200+ would be a good night.
Your're talking about the Tories?
By mattomac
#25113
The Weeping Angel wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 7:52 pm
mattomac wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 7:41 pm Apparently they’ve pulled all resource out of Barnet and are shoving it all into Wandsworth, make of that what you will but you probably wouldn’t do that if you felt you had lost one and are struggling to hold another.

A friend of mine said he was confident on Wandsworth so it must be dire in Barnet.

A lot of these predictions have been fantasy stuff but they could easily get a sizeable amount, I was thinking 200+ would be a good night.
Your're talking about the Tories?
Yeah sorry.
By mattomac
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Tubby Isaacs wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:22 pm I'd rather have these. Labour do much better in England (with no separate London figure) and Wales, about the same in Scotland.

I would say that’s far too high, you have to remember places like Liverpool are electing, Labour were 95% control there, they will drop a few tonight I feel but the vote will hold up for it not to be too bad. However if Labour lose 5 in Liverpool but those 5 end up in the figures in say Soton that’s a good thing.

I think the Tories will lose about 200 and Labour pushing 200 would be a good night. Though even if the Tories collapse it will appear elsewhere in say LD and Others.

This isn’t a bad analysis though, I think anything lower than 200 is bad for the Tories but council gains are more important as I said above.

Half the seats tonight are Labour’s according to that analysis which suggests the Tories will appear bullish post election but really shouldn’t.

They have got two by elections upcoming that they need to survive. One thing I noted about by elections in councils is Labour have defended quite well without gains, I expect the same tonight.
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