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By Bones McCoy
#15508
Watchman wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:51 am
Seems the Students’ Union President who is black has been racially abused over socially media.
Which to me, and there is a possibility I may be wrong!, brings into greater focus Liddle’ s demand not just for an apology from the Students, but a grovelling one
Liddle knows precisely what he's doing.
By Bones McCoy
#15563
mattomac wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:25 pm Why should anyone apologise to Rod Liddle?
There's a bit more detail in the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... ddle-event

The article contradicts the BBC's piece, and talks about Liddle doing little but "chat shit".

The academic who invited him is a former editor of the Scotsman, a fellow scribbler.
He became somewhat emotional when people left the building.
Academic has now "stepped back" from many public duties - ie Cancelled himself.

It appears there's more than one cunt in this story.
By mattomac
#15615
Oh yes Luckhurst and his wife are culprits in this but I feel they all knew what would happen. That’s why they didn’t tell the students before it was held who would be speaking.

However I generally have very little sympathy beyond this poor woman and other students who were told “your kind don’t belong here”.
By MisterMuncher
#15644
Product of an echo chamber, perhaps?

I mean, of all you heard about is support for such things, it's probably quite a shock when your stunt to make the students look hypersensitive and reactionary doesn't garner sage nods from the gen. pop. and instead blows up in your face. It's not necessarily mutually exclusive that they planned it but they are ill equipped to manage it.

See also Trump rally attendees. They're completely bewildered to find that they're not really that big a deal, numbers wise, compared to the total, but they've seen little to nothing of the world beyond.
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By Youngian
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What a snowflake
John Cleese has said he intends to put in a formal complaint about the "deception, dishonesty and tone" of recent BBC interview he took part in.
The BBC World News TV interview covered cancel culture around comedy and his upcoming stand-up tour in Asia.
The Monty Python star tweeted that journalist Karishma Vaswani had tried to portray him as "old-fashioned, uncaring and basically harmful".
A BBC spokeswoman said it was a "fair and appropriate interview".
Actor and comedian Cleese said online he was doing the interview to discuss his stand-up shows in Singapore and Bangkok, but had instead been asked about why he was interested in cancel culture.
'Not the interview I agreed to'
"She then asked a disjointed question, clearly trying to portray me as old-fashioned, uncaring and basically harmful."
He added that his response had been "totally ignored" by the interviewer, who had then asked about the pandemic and US comedian Dave Chapelle, who recently hit out against cancel culture.
Cleese then removed his headphones, as it was "not the interview I had agreed to," he noted.
"Karishma had no interest in a discussion with me. She wanted only the role of prosecutor. The BBC needs to train her again." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59681167
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By Andy McDandy
#16226
I think it's more like he's going "You know what, next thing they'll be banning gingerbread MEN, and we'll have to call them gingerbread PERSONS, in order not to offend the [fill in lobby or term of choice], and you know what, are we even allowed to say ginger any more, or is that "racist" these days?".

Then, when told that no, you can still buy gingerbread men and nothing has changed, and that he's still a twat, rather than shutting up, he presents it as a "great victory" in which he has forced some corporation to backtrack because obviously they were standing ready with all the new packaging just waiting to be rolled out.
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By Nigredo
#16390
Andy McDandy wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:24 am I think it's more like he's going "You know what, next thing they'll be banning gingerbread MEN, and we'll have to call them gingerbread PERSONS, in order not to offend the [fill in lobby or term of choice], and you know what, are we even allowed to say ginger any more, or is that "racist" these days?".
I see you've met my father (who on the census this year wanted to put himself down as a black, muslim, transgendered lesbian dwarf as he reckoned it would bump his pension payments up handsomely).
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By Abernathy
#16705
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/202 ... SApp_Other.

“Cancel Culture” risks wiping out comedy, claims Maureen Lipman.

Well, this is just utter bollocks, isn’t it? Wiping out comedy? Catch a fucking grip, Mo.

Two points : Isn’t it a good thing that people are apparently “self-censoring” in respect of offering opinions about things like immigration, “trans rights” and so on? You’d think people thinking twice before making crass, clod-hopping, half-baked, even racist remarks, is eminently desirable, wouldn’t you?

Secondly, the very YouGov survey on which this whole bout of contrived fucking pearl-clutching is based actually found that two thirds of the people surveyed had no idea what “cancel culture” is, and half of those had never even fucking heard of it.

I used to have a bit of time for Maureen Lipman, but this is such a pile of steaming shite.
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By satnav
#16743
The last comedy Maureen Lipman appeared in was Agony that ended in 1981. In reality there are a lot less comedies on TV than there were 40 years ago. Slots in the schedules that used to be filled with Sitcom's are now filled with soaps. Coronation Street used to feature a great deal of humour certainly with the likes of Jack and Vera who had come into acting via working on the club circuit as singers and entertainers.

The character played by Maureen Lipman in Coronation street is a very cliched and she doesn't generate a great deal of warmth. I'm sure she will always get a certain amount of work based on her past experience but roles will be mainly bit parts.
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By Abernathy
#16746
satnav wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:30 pm The last comedy Maureen Lipman appeared in was Agony that ended in 1981. I
Which, ironically, was ground-breaking at the time (when - you will recall - Clause 28 was a thing and gay-bashing was all the rage) because it featured a gay (male) couple as friends of the main character who were (remarkably at the time) treated as entirely normal.

Was that when cancel culture began to set about "wiping out comedy", Mo ?
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