[The All New KevS]

‘I do feel angry though about what they’ve done to a beautiful dream. This was a vision that might have worked. But if you watch the constant themes that come through again and again from the shock jockeys on GB News, the perception is “we hate migrants, we hate the NHS, we hate lockdown and we hate Meghan Markle”.’ He looks genuinely saddened.

Mailites: "Sounds good to us!"

[Bones McCoy]

‘I do feel angry though about what they’ve done to a beautiful dream. This was a vision that might have worked. But if you watch the constant themes that come through again and again from the shock jockeys on GB News, the perception is “we hate migrants, we hate the NHS, we hate lockdown and we hate Meghan Markle”.’ He looks genuinely saddened.

Mailites: "Sounds good to us!"

I don't recall Brillo having such cold feet during the pre-launch promotion.

I can't buy the fact that what's on the telly now wasn't part of his dream.
Surrounded himself with contrarians and reactionary arseholes - what did he expect - he's not a stupid man.
His late developed opinions are only significant because they occurred after viewing figures and critics had their say.

[Cyclist]

Before the channel even went on air people on this forum were predicting what it would be like.

Funnily enough, those predictions turned out to be accurate. If a bunch of ordinary nobodies could see what was coming surely a political and television genius like Brillo could have done the same.

It's turned out exactly as it was intended to, the only reason Brillo is upset is because they didn't show him enough deference, blow enough smoke up his arse, and crown him king of TV land.

Well boo bloody hoo.

[Youngian]

A few more good lines like that will do Neil no harm

[Bones McCoy]

On the bright side: There'll be some great material for the gang fight in Anchorman 3.

[Spoonman]

More from Neil bearing all about GBeebies - it's no wonder they slabber on about "cancel culture" when they want to do something God-tier dodgy like filming schoolchildren in secret without legal consequences to begin with.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Neil is a skilful media performer, but my impression is he's disappearing down a hole between "hiding cameras in schools is exactly what GB News should be doing" and "isn't this exactly the war on woke you promised?" I actually believe him that he did honestly envisage something where he'd both editorialize about wokes and give rightwing politicians a hard time when he had them on in well-briefed interviews.

"I was so insulted, I flew to France immediately and if I need to, I'll go and live in my place in New York for a while" isn't really a populist winner, is it?

[Tubby Isaacs]

I didn't think that Neil's salary (£700k) sounded all that much for his dual responsibility as chairman and on air face of the channel. Then I looked up BBC salaries in current affairs, and saw that Neil himself got about £170k. So it is a lot.

He doesn't seem to have been a very powerful executive chairman. Maybe, it was like Gareth in the Office being appointed assistant to the regional manager- a title to get him to do something he didn't want to do. Maybe the CEO quoted this very scene at him, who knows?

[Youngian]

Be like Trevor and wind down gracefully with minimum aggravation.

[Watchman]

The only thing I can take from the Neil thing, and no I have no sympathy for the twat, is that secretly he was hoping for an “on-air” Spectator, and ended up with UKIP for Boys

[mattomac]

Well a 600k pay rise probably made him delude himself, I noticed they blocked me after one of their ads popped up on my FB, they had been using the sales algorithm of over 18’s in the UK.

Way to pitch to an audience, you get better targeting from the local Chinese.

Maybe Andrew can flutter his eyelashes and get the Ofcom job, seeing as no one wants to interview Dacre.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Note on this tweet. It's not true. It's fewer than this, and that includes people who've put in renewals (whose licences the government has already extended en masse).

[Spoonman]

Thought I'd put some perspective into the general viewing figures GBeebies are getting, especially against its "main competition"...

This is from the latest BARB audience research between Monday 27th September to Sunday 3rd October 2021. You don't need to know the nitty gritty of how these audience figures are measured, only to know that the average GBeebies viewer can't even stay on the channel for 30 seconds...

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...while from the same period are the top 15 programmes watched on BBC News, Sky News and GB News...

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...basically, without F**age, they're fucked. And even with them they still can't beat Sky News' 15th most watched programme by a fair margin.

[RedSparrows]

And still the Faragists will say 'this shows we're the silent majority'.

[Boiler]

The average duration of the BBC isn't much to write home about though, is it? About the length of the weather forecast or the headlines at the top of a bulletin (he said, having just watched the weather forecast).

Does this tell us that there's actually no appetite for rolling news channels?

[Nigredo]

If I'm listening to commercial radio, I mute the breaks because it's either ads or news bulletins that are pretty much the same as they were when I heard them an hour ago.

[Spoonman]

The average duration of the BBC isn't much to write home about though, is it? About the length of the weather forecast or the headlines at the top of a bulletin (he said, having just watched the weather forecast).

Does this tell us that there's actually no appetite for rolling news channels?

Believe it or not, it's actually better than ITV2 & BBC4, and they were two random channels I checked!

Easy enough to check the figures at the link below...

https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/wee ... mmary-new/

[Bones McCoy]

The average duration of the BBC isn't much to write home about though, is it? About the length of the weather forecast or the headlines at the top of a bulletin (he said, having just watched the weather forecast).

Does this tell us that there's actually no appetite for rolling news channels?

I don't think there is an appetite.
I also don't think there's enough news for rolling news channels, which is why there's so much opinion and repetition.

[Boiler]

Okay, I know comparisons are invidious an'all that and there was massive censorship going on, but if we take this date eighty years ago (as in, during WW2), what news do we get on Auntie?

For the Home Service we have bulletins at

• 0700 - 0715
• 0800 - 0815 (strangely billed as News and Programme Parade)
• 1300 - 1315
• 1700 - 1710 News in Welsh
• 1800 - 1830
• 1830 - 1845 News in Norwegian
• 2100 - 2125
• 0000 - n/a

The Forces programme was the same but the alternative language programmes were not transmitted. In other words, a little over 100 minutes in total.

Of course, we have to remember that as war became more likely, it drove the sales of what were termed "all-wave" sets (as in, ones that had short wave coverage) upwards considerably and I've already mentioned that at least one manufacturer printed a guide to where "News In English" could be heard from Europe and the Americas.

I am left wondering how big a saving could be made by the BBC were it to axe its rolling news offerings.

[kreuzberger]

I am left wondering how big a saving could be made by the BBC were it to axe its rolling news offerings.

A half-way house perhaps. Ice the rolling output unless something actually happens. The logistical challenges or yore are long gone and it is not as if those standby crews could go elsewhere. The arbiter must be whether they can actually make advertising and sponsorship money on the present schedule.

Incidentally, and I am no standard bearer for the current set up, hasn't Anna Foster been great in Beirut today? She is usually in the thick of the 5Live school run from Salford but really did put in a shift from the docks while Hezbollah were breaking out the munitions for the first and worst time in a decade.