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The BBC seemed pretty onside with the Tory policy of reducing the deficit with spending cuts rather than tax rises. For an organisation that always wants more taxes, like.

Incredibly she’s still going. As the straight talking right winger she is, she isn’t answering questions about her resignation honours list.

Great thread on Liz Truss's Q&A here.

Funny how none of these simple cuts were made in Kwasi's budget.

Yeah, absolute nonsense from Truss, as ever.

She's not even pretending to be responding to what she's been asked about any more. This is now full time wingnut welfare job application.

And that's leaving aside her own experience of telling the OBR to fuck off. "Bureaucrats in London" bollocks. How did putting herself and Kwasi in charge instead go?

Did Liz actually model the budget at all? Assume someone in her office did. Why weren’t they “bureaucrats in London”?

She didn’t model it, did she?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:52 pm Did Liz actually model the budget at all? Assume someone in 55 Tufton Street did.

FTFY

"We need more GB News"





The YT comments are gold.

She's already worked her way down to Ted Cruz. It'll be Matt Gaetz by next week.

Even the MAGA crowd think Ted Cruz is an asshole. Pitiful.

There's a man who knows about freezing his constituents to death.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:42 pm She's already worked her way down to Ted Cruz. It'll be Matt Gaetz by next week.

Imagine the conversation over dinner. It’d be like listening to 2 malfunctioning furbys.

I am in genuine awe of the show-time when she thinks that it is a good idea to eat her own mouth.

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I think she genuinely believes she can make a comeback amongst the members who are sick of brown people leading the party.

Boiler wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:13 pm I think she genuinely believes she can make a comeback amongst the members who are sick of brown people leading the party.

If it's down to the membership alone, that includes some seriously unhinged people.
Not to mention a fair proportion of Kippers and R-party entryists.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:24 am

Boiler wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:13 pm I think she genuinely believes she can make a comeback amongst the members who are sick of brown people leading the party.

If it's down to the membership alone, that includes some seriously unhinged people.
Not to mention a fair proportion of Kippers and R-party entryists.

Arguably, that explanation is how she managed to beat Sunak to the job a year ago.

The Tories have only partly learned the lesson that leaving the final choice of leader up to the party's rank-and-file membership is a mug's game. They realised what a massive fucking mistake it was when the nutjobs were allowed to elect Iain Duncan Smith, and thereafter installed Michael Howard without reference to the ranks of the swivel-eyed. But then they repeated the mistake when they let the unhinged masses elect Truss. Again, they wisely bypassed the foam-flecked hordes by simply installing Sunak over their heads when Truss imploded. The thing to do would be to install a system that permanently excludes or effectively diminishes to the point of impotence the membership's role in selecting the leader.

Labour, by contrast, has learned the lessons of the Corbyn disaster. It should not now be possible for a one-man-disaster-area like him ever to be elected leader of the Labour Party again.

Until some fuckwit called Miliband changes the rules to suit Len McCluskey...

The problem being that whereas in the old days the membership were happy with their place in the hierarchy and were content to leave the choice of leadership to the mythical "men in grey suits", quiet words in the Carlton club, or the Parliamentary party, the party is now a very different beast.

Simply put, they think they know better, and have been infected with the same "DEMOCRASEE!" delusion as so many others - that their choice is the right one, because someone else agrees with it. Doesn't matter if other people, better informed or in greater numbers, disagree. They don't count. And because there is nothing better than DEMOCRASEE!, that means you can't be out-argued. Just scream "DEMOCRATICKLY ELECKTID!" until they go away. Anything else is like the Nazis. Or the Commies. Or Commienazis.

So you've got constituency parties that despise the MPs, MPs who dread the constituency parties, ministers who don't trust the MPs, and who need to keep throwing red meat to the party members lest they all go back to the Kip or BNP. If they weren't in office for likely another year, I'd be laughing.

There are certainly a hard core of posters to Conservative Home who believe and advocate the following.

1. The government (by virtue of winning an election and holding majority) should have supreme authority, including immunity from its own laws.

2. The party membership (By virtue of being party members) should have immediate control over the government. Including replacement of in-situ ministers, and the right to ignore inconvenient laws.


They often have Orwell quotes in their signatures, but are unaware of the "most essential command".

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.