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Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:28 pm
by Boiler
Abernathy wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:16 pm No Prime Minister has a personal mandate. That piece is utter bollocks from the very top.
Someone on the Today programme slapped that one firmly down in the week - the PM does NOT have a mandate as we don't have a Presidential System. The party has the mandate, but then you'd expect the Cunt In Chief to believe it's his and his alone.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:14 pm
by Oboogie
Watchman wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:18 pm And at the end of the day, with the Tory party, we all know what "mark" Sunak carries
Precisely, so in Sunak vs Truss, Truss wins.
Starmer vs Truss at the dispatch box will look like bullying.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:14 pm
by Youngian
satnav wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:46 pm I think Wallace would have been the leader who would have the best chance of securing an election win for the Tories because he is one of the few Tory ministers who has done a good job in office.
This man has bedazzled us with his track record of being at his desk doing stuff he’s paid for.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:18 pm
by Crabcakes
Shapps is officially standing. No chance, but probably hoping for another nice job in return for throwing his (feather)weight behind someone later.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:19 pm
by Abernathy
Hmmm. Grunt Schnapps has now also declared.

What an embarrassment of utter dross.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:41 pm
by Oboogie
Youngian wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:14 pm
satnav wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:46 pm I think Wallace would have been the leader who would have the best chance of securing an election win for the Tories because he is one of the few Tory ministers who has done a good job in office.
This man has bedazzled us with his track record of being at his desk doing stuff he’s paid for.
Exactly. I'm afraid I don't buy the admiration for Wallace. Defence Secretary is often a tough gig, in peacetime defence spending is low priority and war is unpopular for obvious reasons.
So Wallace has had a remarkably easy ride: pretty universal support for military aid to Ukraine and there are no body-bags being repatriated to the UK. I can't think of any hard sell battles he's fought.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Abernathy wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:19 pm Hmmm. Grunt Schnapps has now also declared.

What an embarrassment of utter dross.
Brave of Grant. He was unimportant enough before to get away with his business history.

Might not be the case if he gets going in this campaign.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Sunak or Javid at least won't tank the pound, which has something to recommend it in the current climate.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yeah, I'm sure that the electorate want tax and spending cuts, Justin.


Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:22 pm
by Abernathy
"The truth will set you free".


See also "Arbeit Macht Frei"


:x

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:44 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It was also Bolsonaro's 2018 slogan.

She's going to be caught lying very soon, and have this chucked back at her.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Zahawi in, and Trust apparently about to be.

I think I make Truss favourite, well placed to gobble up the Braverman and Badenoch supporters. Don't see Sunak having enough to be beat that. He'll get buried for being relatively honest on tax. That'll be seen as not believing in Brexit.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:49 pm
by Samanfur
I see that Shapps is making it very clear which wingnut vote he's pitching for:

"Thanks to Brexit, we are now a free nation. Let's not just talk about the opportunities that follow, let's take them."

The former education secretary added that he wants to "focus on letting children be children, protecting them from damaging and inappropriate nonsense being forced on them by radical activists".

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Good God. Last time, this stuff was mostly left to Esther McVey.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:54 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Samanfur wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:49 pm I see that Shapps is making it very clear which wingnut vote he's pitching for:

"Thanks to Brexit, we are now a free nation. Let's not just talk about the opportunities that follow, let's take them."

The former education secretary added that he wants to "focus on letting children be children, protecting them from damaging and inappropriate nonsense being forced on them by radical activists".
Actually, I think that's Zahawi, isn't it?

Wasn't he Secretary of State for Education when this was all happening?

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:01 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Samanfur wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:49 pm I see that Shapps is making it very clear which wingnut vote he's pitching for:

"Thanks to Brexit, we are now a free nation. Let's not just talk about the opportunities that follow, let's take them."

The former education secretary added that he wants to "focus on letting children be children, protecting them from damaging and inappropriate nonsense being forced on them by radical activists".
The ones with nothing to say just go for culture wars bullshit...

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:09 pm
by Watchman
Cunning move by Grunt, if first bid fails he can fall back on Green, then Fox

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:24 pm
by Samanfur
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:54 pmActually, I think that's Zahawi, isn't it?

Wasn't he Secretary of State for Education when this was all happening?
It was definitely Shapps. I first saw the quote in a story that didn't mention Zahawi's candidacy at all.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:25 pm
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:10 pm Dacre recruits former Revolutionary Communist Party cadre to hold the line. On a human level Jonathan Harmsworth needs to give Paul a hug. Never seen such sad desperate copy.
Can we get and "Up the'RA" for old times sakes Mick?
Your new best mate Farage managed one.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest 2022

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:30 pm
by Watchman
Every time I read “X” has entered the race, my continuation of that is; but the Homo sapiens sent them back