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The Tory's have set out an email today entitled Tax Check UK with no clear party logo on it. After falsely claiming that everybody is now £900 a year better off because of National Insurance cuts it then goes on to list how taxes will rise under Labour. They really are getting desperate.

Well for starters I’m not £900 better off

Also, you know what? Take a few extra hundred snackers a month, and use it to help the homeless, the ill, the needy. I can spare it.

Watchman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:55 pm Well for starters I’m not £900 better off

I assume this is “better off” in the “inflation has come down” sense - you never had the 900 quid, but if they’d have carried on with what they’d originally planned you’d be another 900 quid worse off.

What the actual fuck? This is like Labour sticking up a "PM Oliver Dowden" poster. There's a good reason they aren't doing that, and it isn't that Oilver Dowden is popular.

Not getting that at all. Besides, isn't Gordon Brown generally quite well regarded?

Probably aimed at the base who don't like Rayner or Brown. From that he gets to "Rayner for PM, really soon", which is obvious bollocks.

Of course the big flaw there is that they’re assuming people would have an issue with Rayner (they do because she’s a “ghastly working class woman who doesn’t know her place” as Rees-Mogg would probably put it - most people don’t). Or at the very least that they’d have more of an issue with Rayner than another Tory.

I’m guessing whoever thats targeted at, simply won’t get it

Been noticing a lot of anti Rayner stuff from them.

I don't see it. 'gobby woman should know better?'

Yeah, right, that'll fly with the people you need to win over...

It's perceived core vote stuff, even if lots of those voters have cleared off to Reform.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:09 pm It's perceived core vote stuff, even if lots of those voters have cleared off to Reform.

Which shows their contempt for their voters. Most of the Tory voters I have known* are, individually, quite decent people - apart from their penchant for voting for cunts.


*Living where I used to you have no choice but to interact with Tory voters. They were the large majority of adults.

Same with where I live and with my family, and extended family.. They probably don't like Rayner and Brown much, but they're not obsessed with them either. I think they'd struggle to be motivated by this.

Over the last 12 months the Tory candidate has been fairly active in the constituency getting plenty of coverage in the local paper an on Facebook but over the last 5 or 6 weeks he has been almost anonymous. I've not seen a single Tory poster or sign in the area. He has sent out stuff in the post but he really doesn't seem to have many party workers on the ground. In comparison the sitting Labour MP has been out canvassing every day and has also taken part in a number of local events that have guaranteed plenty of coverage in the local media.

Chesterfield hasn't had a Conservative MP since 1931 and I don't think we will have one on Friday morning.

I don’t think there has been enough ridicule in the news media and commentary of the absrdity and illogicality of the Tories’ desperate messaging in the final days .

“Don’t give Labour a “supermajority”

Well, in the context of British politics, the term “supermajority” is quite meaningless. Was anybody warning about Boris Johnson’ s “supermajority” of 80 seats in 2019? Of course they weren’t. A majority is a majority, whether it’s 10 seats or 150 seats. And what exactly are the “dangers” of a very large majority that we’re all being urged to clutch our pearls about ? Can you think of any?

“Don’t give Keir Starmer a blank cheque.”

Well, this just bollocks. Anyone elected Prime Minister, whether Rishi Sunak, Theresa May, or fucking Benjamin Disraeli, is Prime Minister and “First Lord of the Treasury”. So in effect, they have the final say on all spending decisions, or in other words, a “blank cheque”. Every Prime Minister.

So it’s all meaningless, scaremongering bollocks. But for fuck’s sake, somebody call it out.

To paraphrase John Steinbeck, the Tories never see themselves as a party of opposition - just as temporarily benched while they get some rest.

Sunak is effectively warning in advance that he and his Tories are going to be absolutely shite as an opposition. Saying “please don’t give us the pitifully small number of seats that a party that has spent 14 years fucking up the country in every conceivable way deserves”.

As I say, completely absurd, and pathetically desperate.

5164 days down, 4 to go

If the Tories end up with around 150 seats it will make it difficult for the Tories who do survive to go off moonlighting in the city.