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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:25 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I'm not watching the campaign closely, but has Kemi been used much? Wasn't she supposed to be the secret weapon?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:36 pm
by Andy McDandy
She's a weapon, alright.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:44 pm
by Youngian
I’m sure Lord Dave’s bagged some hedge fund gigs on his travels.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:05 pm
by Youngian
Andrew Neil is spot on here as to how Brexit has destroyed the Conservative Party but he’s got some chutzpah to sit there as a dispassionate wise pundit on the subject
https://x.com/mikegalsworthy/status/180 ... Dkr8MiQKBg

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:01 am
by Bones McCoy
https://conservativehome.com/2024/06/16 ... run-again/

The article fails to explain how a non MP can join the race for leader.

Until that explains, It's just a load of wishes for unicorns.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:21 am
by Andy McDandy
Yes, and I'm thinking of shagging Eva Green.

Not sure who Andrew Gimson is, but there is some serious delusion going on there. Johnson 'forced' Fargle to stand down in 2019?

And his boilerplate endorsements of a handful of mediocre lackeys? Each one being "Insert name here is a marvellous champion for insert constituency here, in particular with their work on insert local issue or success story here. Ever since I met them at [subs check event lines up with their time line] they have been a jolly good chap. Vote tory!"

Same thing he used to churn out at PMQs.

Gimson's an arse licking cunt.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:23 am
by Youngian
I thought the metropolitan liberal elite are bad because they’re decadent bohemian libertines? If they are, they’re not stupid enough to vote for fuck ups like themselves to run the country. And those who couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones aren’t going to forget Funtime Boris partying during lockdown.
But as Charles Moore noted of Starmer in The Spectator after the leaders’ debate on 4th June:

“his (Starmer) persistent fault is his moralism. His favourite word about his opponent was ‘shocking’. That is prissy maiden-auntism, not leadership.”

Johnson offers relief from maiden-auntism. He stands in a line of Tory Democrats who have been able at crucial moments to frame an appeal which shocks the prissy but speaks to the wider public. No wonder he is thinking of standing again.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:27 am
by Andy McDandy
It's Toby Young and "Boris makes us all laugh" again. We're the real rebels and that.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:56 am
by Rosvanian
Youngian wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:23 am I thought the metropolitan liberal elite are bad because they’re decadent bohemian libertines? If they are, they’re not stupid enough to vote for fuck ups like themselves to run the country. And those who couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones aren’t going to forget Funtime Boris partying during lockdown.
But as Charles Moore noted of Starmer in The Spectator after the leaders’ debate on 4th June:

“his (Starmer) persistent fault is his moralism. His favourite word about his opponent was ‘shocking’. That is prissy maiden-auntism, not leadership.”

Johnson offers relief from maiden-auntism. He stands in a line of Tory Democrats who have been able at crucial moments to frame an appeal which shocks the prissy but speaks to the wider public. No wonder he is thinking of standing again.
It's all meaningless, random blether. These fuckers just cannot get their heads around the fact that most of the country hates them and it's driving them insane. It's joyful to see.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:32 am
by Bones McCoy
Gimson's a regular contributor to ConHome.

Typically issues word salads which make me suspect he's a chatbot.

The main entertainment's to be had from the comments which follow.
They illustrate the extent of the party's infiltration by Faragistes (and worse).

The idea that the country needs an incompetent and dishonest "entertainer" (ie crook) before a sober thinking leader is honestly laughable.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:55 pm
by Bones McCoy
Where have all the good times gone?

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Asks Bill Cash in the Telegraph.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:01 pm
by Samanfur
Gimson is Boris Johnson’s biographer.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:30 pm
by slilley
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:25 pm I'm not watching the campaign closely, but has Kemi been used much? Wasn't she supposed to be the secret weapon?
Maybe like many other cabinet members they are having to spend more time in their constituencies than was previously anticipated.

Of the Shadow Cabinet, Labour seem to have a regular roster of faces to offer up ensuring a different one each day.

btw, am I the only one who is really liking Pat McFadden and his dead pan calmness not biting at anything that gets thrown at him. He seems an ideal foil for the gotcha interviewers, because he never gets sucked into their so called traps.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:52 pm
by Abernathy
slilley wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:30 pm
btw, am I the only one who is really liking Pat McFadden and his dead pan calmness not biting at anything that gets thrown at him. He seems an ideal foil for the gotcha interviewers, because he never gets sucked into their so called traps.
Yes, you’re right. Pat is quite brilliant.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:31 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
slilley wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:30 pm
Maybe like many other cabinet members they are having to spend more time in their constituencies than was previously anticipated.
Yeah, I think that's probably true. Even if they feel they're safe themselves, there's not much incentive to get out of the constituency to help Sunak.

McFadden's been about a while- surprised Milliband didn't use him better.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:48 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:25 pm I'm not watching the campaign closely, but has Kemi been used much? Wasn't she supposed to be the secret weapon?
This is unexpected as the LDs were the main challenger
Labour calls for tactical voting to oust Tory leadership hopeful Kemi Badenoch

Issy Waite, the Labour candidate for North West Essex – the reformed Saffron Walden seat in Tory blue wall heartlands – has claimed she is just 2 per cent behind the trade and business secretary with three weeks to go before the election.
In a bid for campaign funds and an appeal for Lib Dems and Greens to vote tactically, Ms Waite has posted a projection suggesting Ms Badenoch is on 36 per cent, and that she is snapping at her heels on 34 per cent. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 63182.html

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Are the Lib Dems campaigning there? I would think that they're concentrating on Chelmsford next door.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:25 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This might help Kemi survive. He can't resign, but as with Labour's Rochdale candidate, you'd expect his vote to be massively reduced. Shame it's not another constituency.

Or perhaps not, seeing it's Reform.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:48 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
You've never had it so good. With added Liam Byrne's note, BBC Remainers and comparison of Brexit to D-Day. And the UK is on track for massive tax cuts, apparently.

Mad.

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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:56 pm
by Yug
I do remember how good it was under the Tories. Those first couple of months back in 2010, when Labour's policies were still working, before the ideology-driven shitshow of the political and intellectual lightweights started to bite. But that was just a couple of months, a long time ago. And it had absolutely nothing to do with the Cuntservative government.