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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 2:22 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 2:01 pm The other lot will put up tax isn't an obviously winning message,

There's a bit of dissonance here too. Almost looks like it should be "Labour will save you money".

Great news in a country where most people have no savings, you’ll have money to save under Labour

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:07 pm
by kreuzberger
Easy peasy

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:40 pm
by Crabcakes
It’s just so fucking stupid. If they ask people about money, most of them will immediately look at their current outgoings and recall how they had more money before Brexit bumped up costs and a LOT more money before Truss fucked their mortgages.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:53 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Red Wall Tory Crosses the Floor
The BBC wrote:Former Conservative MP Mark Logan has said he is backing Labour at the next general election, saying the party could "bring back optimism into British life".
In an exclusive interview with BBC News, Mr Logan, who represented Bolton North East for the Tories until Parliament dissolved on Thursday, said Labour had been on a "journey" and now offered "centrist politics".
He added that the Tory Party was now "unrecognisable" from the party he joined a decade ago.
Mr Logan won his seat with a majority of just 378 in 2019, making it one of the most marginal in the country.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 8:32 pm
by Bones McCoy
This illustrates the paucity of Tory strategy.

They're pushing the "move right" button to stem the flow of red wall voters to Reform UK.
They neglect that most of those voters were habitlal Labour who "lent" Spaffer their votes in the confusion after Brexit.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 8:39 pm
by Philip Marlow
Feel that civic pride.

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/29/iain ... here-else/
Departing LBC Presenter Iain Dale, who announced this week that he is quitting the station in an attempt to stand as the Conservative party’s candidate for Tunbridge Wells, previously told listeners to his podcast that he “never liked the place” and “would happily live somewhere else”.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 9:30 pm
by Bones McCoy
Philip Marlow wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 8:39 pm Feel that civic pride.

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/29/iain ... here-else/
Departing LBC Presenter Iain Dale, who announced this week that he is quitting the station in an attempt to stand as the Conservative party’s candidate for Tunbridge Wells, previously told listeners to his podcast that he “never liked the place” and “would happily live somewhere else”.
A rat boarding a sinking ship?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 9:32 pm
by kreuzberger
A man, whose cranial characteristics are modelled on a penis, proves to be a dickhead. Well, colour me shocked.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 9:34 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Lib Dems will fancy that seat.

Is there a rollerskating park for Ed Davey to fall over in?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 11:00 am
by Bones McCoy
Fly-tippers to get points on driving licence, Tories promise

The end of the pier show continues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedd9l00leyo
The Conservatives have unveiled plans for fly-tippers to get points on their driving licences and evict disruptive tenants from social housing.

Repeat fly-tippers currently face up to five years in prison and an unlimited fine, but new plans could also see low-level offenders face driving penalties.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said his is the only party with "a clear plan to ensure safety, security and prosperity in your local community".

Currently only 20% of fly-tipping investigations end in fines. The Lib Dems accused the Tories of "legalising littering".

And Labour accused the conservatives of "empty words", pointing to the government's own fly-tipping statistics, external, which showed there had been more than a million fly-tipping incidents "on the Conservatives’ watch" in the last year.
No high hopes here.
It's a legal system that couldn't establish whether Neil or Christine Hamilton was driving.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 11:05 am
by Andy McDandy
Closing down waste disposal sites, cutting council budgets for non-standard waste collection...what is a white van driver from the home counties to do?

This is just "we hate chavs".

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 6:10 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 9:34 pm The Lib Dems will fancy that seat.

Is there a rollerskating park for Ed Davey to fall over in?
The Norman Wisdom of British politics.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 6:12 pm
by Bones McCoy
Andy McDandy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 11:05 am Closing down waste disposal sites, cutting council budgets for non-standard waste collection...what is a white van driver from the home counties to do?

This is just "we hate chavs".
And charging to dispose of an ever-increasing list of everyday objects.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 6:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Bones McCoy wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:12 pm
And charging to dispose of an ever-increasing list of everyday objects.
And in my old council only taking away items on a prescribed list which didn't include the dustbin that the bin men had broken the lid off.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:26 pm
by Spoonman
According to sources I've seen elsewhere, Sky News' Sam Coates asked Grant Shapps over the phone what he thought if he lost his seat - Shapps hung up! :lol:

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:46 pm
by Crabcakes
Spoonman wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:26 pm According to sources I've seen elsewhere, Sky News' Sam Coates asked Grant Shapps over the phone what he thought if he lost his seat - Shapps hung up! :lol:
It was worse - Shapps phoned him first!

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:23 pm
by kreuzberger
Should I stay or should I go?
Sorry, that was his altogether more agreeable cousin.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Tory Chairman is still looking for seat.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:41 pm
by Crabcakes
The Tories’ first election broadcast has the Union Jack the wrong way up.

I’m really starting to think this is deliberate self-sabotage now!

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:15 pm
by Youngian
Crabcakes wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:41 pm The Tories’ first election broadcast has the Union Jack the wrong way up.
A distress signal. Their main damage limitation strategy is now moving up to 30% and there’s only one direction the votes can come from, Reform. Now they have a super gay weight fight to the death with Farage.