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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 5:58 pm
by Bones McCoy
These people must be very selecting about their drunken harassment.

It can only be a matter of time before a target stands up and goes full Indiana Jones.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 7:22 am
by AOB
Government knew repayment demands left carers poorer

Imagine voting for them.

They're going after 134,000 people for overpayments totalling £250m. Source

Unpaid carers save the Government £162bn per year. Roughly half of what they actually pay to those who claim. Source

They are saving 648 x what they are bullying people for. Not to mention the earnings that took carers over the threshold would almost certainly have gone straight back into the UK economy. And not some offshore account in a tax dodging scheme used by the bullies themselves.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 5:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is where the Tories are now on Higher Education- not just the Braverman wing either, it's the leadership and virtually every MP apart from the Education Secretary. Universities staying open with one course? It doesn't matter how valuable the course is- if the government caps fees and reduces the number of foreign students, it's not viable.

https://x.com/NeilDotObrien/status/1791808627889606760

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 5:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Again, absolute clownery.

Universities are propped up by foreign students because that's how the government wanted them to operate, with UK fee income capped below cost. As someone pointed out BTL, you can almost hear the readio interviews from here. "Should Teesside University be closing departments? We speak to local MP, Simon Clarke, who studied at University College, Oxford".

https://x.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1791737651961147858

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 5:35 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 6:55 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Another of the formerly brighter ones here. The fact he's spouting this rubbish surely has nothing to do with him being a Tory candidate at the next election (in Bicester and Woodstock, where he might be vulnerable to tactical voting).

Brave effort by Rupes, I'll give him that. But I think "dreadful Labour haven't included running costs for scanners" might not cut in when his lot promised 40 hospitals and and a care service without any funding,

https://x.com/rbrharrison/status/1791392201643102480

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:59 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Another safe seat retirement. Chris Heaton-Harris.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 7:47 am
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 5:35 pm This is the logic.

https://x.com/cjayanetti/status/1791844853896163585
Even growing up around Cambridge, I don’t remember meeting many university students who were hairy lefty activists.
It’s really inconvenient for their narrative that the Conservative Party won among graduates up to and including the 2015 General Election.

And then something radically changed in the 2017 General Election https://x.com/bradwellcommon/status/179 ... Dkr8MiQKBg

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 1:07 pm
by Bones McCoy
AOB wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 7:22 am Government knew repayment demands left carers poorer

Imagine voting for them.

They're going after 134,000 people for overpayments totalling £250m. Source

Unpaid carers save the Government £162bn per year. Roughly half of what they actually pay to those who claim. Source

They are saving 648 x what they are bullying people for. Not to mention the earnings that took carers over the threshold would almost certainly have gone straight back into the UK economy. And not some offshore account in a tax dodging scheme used by the bullies themselves.
If venture capital can't wet its beak, the usual suspects will consider it a loss.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 7:59 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This'll bring the young professionals back to the Tories. If you're wearing a rainbow lanyard, you're the intolerant one.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 7:50 am
by Abernathy
Hide your own shitty views, or go for a confrontation.

Or simply gnore it, as the overwhelming majority of normal people do.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:57 am
by RedSparrows
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 7:59 pm This'll bring the young professionals back to the Tories. If you're wearing a rainbow lanyard, you're the intolerant one.

Ah, 'political contests'. But not Palestine (or, indeed, Israel) right? Cos that has nothing to do with political contests.

Political, but not human rights, right?

Political, but not, uh, the political?

Also, Miriam Cates... If you don't have any 'objectionable' symbology at work, you have what? The natural state of the cosmos? Really?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
In a terrible scandal for Labour, the Mayor of London is importing competitively-priced electric buses to meet climate targets.

Who does she think should have got the contract instead? She doesn't say. Andd apparently it's Go Ahead buying the buses, not Khan.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 2:05 pm
by Bones McCoy
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 1:49 pm Who does she think should have got the contract instead?
The Bamford / JCB owned Wrightbus of Ballymena - good solid donors, to all sorts of conservative adjacent causes.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 2:29 pm
by Youngian
Wrights patriotically took Johnson to the cleaners with their crappy bespoke Routemasters that could have been bought in the open market for less than half the cost to the tax payer.
Although Wright has secured a zero emission bus order with Arriva for 87 vehicles in London without any special favours from the mayor. You win some, lose some that’s how business works.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 3:44 pm
by Rosvanian
It's just another illustration of how politicians of all stripes are utterly clueless about public sector procurement but are never shy about offering their opinion about it.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 7:05 am
by Philip Marlow
I am shocked I tell you. Both shocked and appalled.

https://bylinetimes.com/2024/05/21/suna ... ry-groups/
John Woodcock – now known as Lord Walney – states in a new Government commissioned review of protest groups that “Defence companies and energy providers that are vital to local economies, national security and resilience are being particularly targeted by extreme protest groups” adding that “they are fringe groups with few supporters yet are causing significant damage. “Far too little is in place to support businesses and industries that are impacted by disruption or targeted by extreme activists blocking their premises and causing criminal damage.”
But why would he…?
As reported by Byline Times last week, Woodcock’s own House of Lords register interest declarations reveals that, among other roles, Lord Walney is:

Paid chair of the Purpose Defence Coalition, members of which include Leonardo, one of the world’s largest arms manufacturers, with “extensive links” to Israel’s military. Leonardo has been targeted by Palestine Action, which is mentioned over 100 times in the report
Paid adviser to lobbyists Rud Pederson, clients of which include the oil and gas giant, Glencore.
Paid adviser to the Purpose Business Coalition, members of which include fossil fuel giant BP.
Sigh.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 7:38 am
by Youngian
If Woodcock was acting in good faith, he would have politely declined this review role. Not as if he needs the extra cash.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 5:19 pm
by Bones McCoy
Infan-Tories now kicking off on twitter because David "Lord" Frost has been "prevented from running as a Tory".

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 6:06 pm
by slilley
Bones McCoy wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 5:19 pm Infan-Tories now kicking off on twitter because David "Lord" Frost has been "prevented from running as a Tory".
He is a member of the House of Lords. Ineligible to stand as a peer. Peers have no vote in an election either

Simon