[Cyclist]

Mk II Churchill's remarks are going down about as well as could be expected

Boris Johnson has caused fury among political leaders across Europe – and outrage among opponents of Brexit at home – after he compared the resistance of the Ukrainian people to Russia’s invasion to the UK’s decision to leave the EU...

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-as-crass

Can we have the question mark at the end of this thread title removed please? It is now a statement of fact.

[Dalem Lake]

Christ, what a cunt

[Tubby Isaacs]

There's more.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

Kenney Everett?

[Boiler]

[Boiler]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60809454

Donald Tusk, ex-president of the European Council, said Mr Johnson's comments would "offend Ukrainians, the British and common sense".

Guy Verhofstadt, the former prime minister of Belgium who was the European Parliament's chief Brexit negotiator, said the comparison was "insane".

Lord Barwell, who served as Theresa May's chief of staff in No 10, said: "Apart from the bit where voting in a free and fair referendum isn't in any way comparable with risking your life to defend your country against invasion, and the awkward fact the Ukrainians are fighting for the freedom to join the EU, this comparison is bang on."

[The Weeping Angel]

I'm dissapointed that Starmer hasn't said anything about this so far.

[Crabcakes]

Starmer is playing it right, I think. He’s being statesmanlike, and letting Johnson drag himself (further) into the gutter. He could be all over it, but there’s no need - and a domestic row is what Johnson is desperate for.

The response to his speech has been overwhelmingly negative. All he has - literally all - is brexit and vaccine rollout. He can’t tie the latter to Ukraine so he’s had a stab at tying the former. It failed - and the story he was at a Russian oligarch’s fundraiser the very night of the invasion breaking the same day has underlined how everything he’s said is bullshit.

[mattomac]

So they dismiss the breaking of the law as “fluff” but will run an election campaign based solely on being “anti-woke”.

I don’t want to prejudge the great British public but I’d be surprised if during a cost of living crisis they will rally to a PM who is banging on about protecting statues.

Yes GB news exists but only about 60k are tuning in

[Youngian]

Mk II Churchill's remarks are going down about as well as could be expected

Boris Johnson has caused fury among political leaders across Europe – and outrage among opponents of Brexit at home – after he compared the resistance of the Ukrainian people to Russia’s invasion to the UK’s decision to leave the EU...

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-as-crass

Can we have the question mark at the end of this thread title removed please? It is now a statement of fact.

Not feeling the widespread disgust and outrage as this is what Britain Trump does and who he is. Core Tory voters may find the speech off-key but nowhere near a deal breaker. Still think this is a logical strategy to woo back former BNP and UKIP voters from ‘don’t know.’ Johnson only needs a few points from these arseholes to overtake Labour.

[Andy McDandy]

I think he knows exactly what he's doing. He's calculated that for enough people, cost of living can be mitigated if they can call other people names. As long as you have someone to look down on, you have a view.

And it's not just minorities, but the greater category of "clever bastards". We may be one of the few countries that view intelligence with suspicion, and oh boy, he knows it.

[The All New KevS]

I held my nose and waded into the Mail and Express comments online, and even there, a majority was condemning him, a lot starting their comments with phrases like "I voted for Brexit and still think it was the right thing to do, but come off it!"

It's clear that the only ones unreservedly agreeing with him are the real swivel eyed loons who have an incredible inability to grasp reality.

However, perhaps they're right. Perhaps I have selective amnesia, and I can't remember the Isle of Wight being annexed by France, the paratroopers landing in Huddersfield, the EU warship in the Wash launching a cruise missile that hit a school in Peterborough, the Ramsgate amphibious landings, the Battle of Dorking, and all the others.

As for the Starmer comment, on one hand you have a hypothetical white flag, which there is zero basis that it would ever be used. On the other, there is a hypothetical red carpet, which was rolled out to accept monies from those close to Putin.

[Andy McDandy]

The reasoning there being "Labour, lefties, reds under the bed, Commies, Russia", ignoring any of the events of the last few decades.

Also up there is Sunak with his "I'm a Tory Chancellor, I hate raising taxes!", the implication being that the louder he protests this is the last thing he wants to do, the more we'll believe that big boys in the Treasury made him do it.

Serious abusive partner energy from all of them.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

And the headbangers in the local associations will lap it up.

[Samanfur]

I'm sure the Ukrainians would appreciate knowing that they're really fighting the culture wars.

[Boiler]

I see "BackBoris" is trending on Ye Twatter...

[Youngian]

'We believe people should be able to do what they like.. as long as they don't harm anybody else...

That’s what Tories believe for themselves but not for black kids smoking weed. They should be banged up.

[Andy McDandy]

'We believe people should be able to do what we like.

FTFY

[Bones McCoy]

I see "BackBoris" is trending on Ye Twatter...

It follows bigdog taking a bigdump as night follows day.

[Abernathy]

There seems to be an emerging consensus that Johnson’s crass remarks about Brexit and the invasion of Ukraine were not only calculatedly deliberate, as Andy has pointed out, but actually represent the opening shots in the Tories’ general election campaign for 2024 , or perhaps even 2023. The main reason why Starmer has largely so far declined to engage on the Brexit debacle, and in particular the vexed question of its possible reversal/rejoining, is that Johnson would dearly love to re-litigate the entire Brexit/will of the people/traitors shitshow to mobilise the swivel-eyed fuckwits who delivered his huge majority in 2019, and who still remain convinced that Brexit is the best thing since Katerina Witt got naked. It is furthermore, as Andy also points out, just about all he’s got. Especially if the “Partygate” fluff grows legs again.

So expect much ,much, more of this sort of shite. Strap yerselves in.