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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:42 pm
by mattomac
The weird thing about Gavin is I wouldn’t expect he was bright enough to make any notes as chief whip.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:47 pm
by kreuzberger
Even if he did, a tenner says he dots his i's with little circles.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:47 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Or hearts...

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:06 pm
by Youngian
World beating in contradictory bollocks

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:14 pm
by Andy McDandy
They have a very fine line to walk - simultaneously tell their base that a) they're big goddamn heroes and the best in the world, and b) that this won't cost them anything and there's no chance of a Ukrainian family moving in next door.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:39 pm
by Boiler
Andy McDandy wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:14 pm They have a very fine line to walk - simultaneously tell their base that a) they're big goddamn heroes and the best in the world, and b) that this won't cost them anything and there's no chance of a Ukrainian family moving in next door.
I mean, Heaven forbid - they'll probably open a chain of successful delicatessens across the area.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:55 pm
by Youngian
Andy McDandy wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:14 pm They have a very fine line to walk - simultaneously tell their base that a) they're big goddamn heroes and the best in the world, and b) that this won't cost them anything and there's no chance of a Ukrainian family moving in next door.
We know the playbook if Ukrainians come over in high numbers: Compassion fatigue, tabloid hate campaign and then Farage returns eating away at the nativist vote in marginals. And there’s no Corbyn or ‘coalition of chaos’ for the Tories to hold the centre right vote hostage.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:04 pm
by Boiler
50 years ago the UK welcomed 27,000 Ugandan Asians. Not without problems; families did get separated with sometimes the fathers ending up in France whilst the mothers and children ended up at West Malling in Kent.

Now the child of one of those refugees is trying to keep refugees out.

Fucking ladder puller.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:34 pm
by Andy McDandy
I get the sentiment, but we really need to knock the myth of Patel's family hot-footing it out of Entebbe with the clothes on their backs and all their worldly possessions stuffed into a suitcase on the head.

Many Ugandan Asians were forced out in such circumstances by Amin in 1971-2, but Patel's parents were not among them. They had been safely ensconced in Britain since the mid-60s, and owned a chain of newsagents across the home counties. Fun fact - the dodgy businessman who makes a generous donation to Francis Urquhart at the start of House of Cards (and who describes his loan sharking as "a little local finance") is alleged to be based on Patel senior.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:02 pm
by Boiler
Andy McDandy wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:34 pm Many Ugandan Asians were forced out in such circumstances by Amin in 1971-2
My dentist's family was one of them. That's how I knew the story of the family getting separated.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:55 pm
by mattomac
Andy McDandy wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:34 pm I get the sentiment, but we really need to knock the myth of Patel's family hot-footing it out of Entebbe with the clothes on their backs and all their worldly possessions stuffed into a suitcase on the head.

Many Ugandan Asians were forced out in such circumstances by Amin in 1971-2, but Patel's parents were not among them. They had been safely ensconced in Britain since the mid-60s, and owned a chain of newsagents across the home counties. Fun fact - the dodgy businessman who makes a generous donation to Francis Urquhart at the start of House of Cards (and who describes his loan sharking as "a little local finance") is alleged to be based on Patel senior.
Interesting, I know her mother holds the same views as the daughter.

Re: Conservatives General

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:25 pm
by Youngian
Patel’s parents are League of Empire loyalists generation. Servants of the empire betrayed by yellow bellow liberals when decolonisation ended their party. This grudge has never been healed and here we are.

Meanwhile Truss blames Patel on policies she supports

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:48 pm
by Boiler

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:04 pm
by Andy McDandy
Well, Mr Smartypants Bryant, you can prove anything you like with "facts"! But here in the real world, it's a different story etc etc.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:24 pm
by mattomac
Boiler wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:48 pm
Hopefully Bryant responded saying, yeah you do that.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:07 pm
by Boiler



One reply was "did her personal photographer record this?"

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:23 pm
by Nigredo

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:21 am
by Bones McCoy
Richard Harrington appointed minister for refugees.

Former MP for Watford.
Property developer and hotelier.
Expelled from the party as part of the Clarkist expulsions. of September 2019.

Did a lot of infrastructure work around Watford.
Parliamentary under-secretary for Syrian Refugees under Home Sec' Theresa May.
Supported a second referendum, and expelled.

Footnote about his support for homeopathy.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:37 pm
by mattomac
Is it just me or are the current cabinet quite arrogant, either they have self belief that they will win throughout or they know something, this talk of power for 10-20 years, isn’t the average cabinet ministers tenure 18 months?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:19 pm
by Boiler
As long as Johnson is in power they will suck up to him and he so loves to be adored. So yes, perhaps they will be around for a very long time as long as Johnson survives. As all moderates have been purged from the party, any successor is likely to retain them.