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Boiler wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:30 pm Does anyone here believe a single fucking word that comes out of his gob?

Funnily enough, I do believe some of it. Because we know they fucked the covid response, and this catalogue of incompetence exactly matches what we know happened, when it happened, and why. I also believe his descriptions of Hancock and Johnson as being as absolutely woeful and arrogant as we all know they are.

I don't believe he was anything like as powerless as he claims, I don't believe his embellished road trip description, and I'm certainly unsure of his apologies after the fact. But for the descriptions of lockdown and shielding and the absolute lack of a plan, I think it's not so much he's now lying about people he no longer likes as *not* lying *for* them anymore while he might still be being selectively protective of others (Sunak for one, and no critique of Gove). Or to put it another way, simply having a straight description of their headless chicken approach to a global pandemic is damning enough without the need for lies.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:56 pm I don't believe he was anything like as powerless as he claims, I don't believe his embellished road trip description, and I'm certainly unsure of his apologies after the fact. But for the descriptions of lockdown and shielding and the absolute lack of a plan, I think it's not so much he's now lying about people he no longer likes as *not* lying *for* them anymore while he might still be being selectively protective of others (Sunak for one, and no critique of Gove). Or to put it another way, simply having a straight description of their headless chicken approach to a global pandemic is damning enough without the need for lies.

I view it more as him as currying favour with people who might replace a supplanted Johnson and get him back on the gravy train.

What I wish upon this entire venal cabal is best left unsaid.

Also this:



If everything he's said today about meetings is a lie, Johnson etc. can prove it.

I greatly suspect they won't. Because they can't.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 11:14 am I don't believe what I've just seen - Rebecca Long-Bailey used a tik-tok style filter on her face whilst asking questions...

Thank Camus for radio.

Sarah Owen is fantastic. Spotted the way he's sparing Sunak and Gove.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:04 pm If everything he's said today about meetings is a lie, Johnson etc. can prove it.

I greatly suspect they won't. Because they can't.

Maybe Cummings will have a David Kelly moment.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:17 pm Sarah Owen is fantastic. Spotted the way he's sparing Sunak and Gove.

She called out the comments about Asians as well.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:22 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:17 pm Sarah Owen is fantastic. Spotted the way he's sparing Sunak and Gove.

She called out the comments about Asians as well.

What was that, TWA? I'm trying to contain my rage by just looking on here but obviously that's one I've missed?

The Mirror're already using their own anonymous government sources to confirm some of what's being said.

I doubt that they're the only ones.

Boiler wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:27 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:22 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:17 pm Sarah Owen is fantastic. Spotted the way he's sparing Sunak and Gove.

She called out the comments about Asians as well.

What was that, TWA? I'm trying to contain my rage by just looking on here but obviously that's one I've missed?

It was about Asians being more naturally obedient.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:38 pm

Boiler wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:27 pm

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:22 pm

She called out the comments about Asians as well.

What was that, TWA? I'm trying to contain my rage by just looking on here but obviously that's one I've missed?

It was about Asians being more naturally obedient.

'kin'ell

Boiler wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:21 pm

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:04 pm If everything he's said today about meetings is a lie, Johnson etc. can prove it.

I greatly suspect they won't. Because they can't.

Maybe Cummings will have a David Kelly moment.

More like a Matthew Kelly moment:

"Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be getting myself off the hook while putting people I don't like on it"

Also of note: everyone he's had it in for was a remainer (or in Johnson's case, went with whatever served him best). Everyone he's inexplicably protected a leaver.

Hancock is a subversive Remainer? Think Cummings is an EEA guy, he was quoted as saying the ERG were swivel eyed nutters. He made a remark today about the culture war nonsense being nothing to do with him. Hard to classify his politics but more of a Silicon Valley libertarian techno head than a send ‘em back Kipper.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:10 pm Hancock is a subversive Remainer? Think Cummings is an EEA guy, he was quoted as saying the ERG were swivel eyed nutters. He made a remark today about the culture war nonsense being nothing to do with him. Hard to classify his politics but more of a Silicon Valley libertarian techno head than a send ‘em back Kipper.

It's all "broadly speaking" stuff. But the gist is if you were on "his" team, he seems to have quite the sudden blind spot even if you, say, ran schemes that helped spread coronavirus.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:13 pm It's all "broadly speaking" stuff. But the gist is if you were on "his" team, he seems to have quite the sudden blind spot even if you, say, ran schemes that helped spread coronavirus.

What, like "Eat Out To Spread It About"?? Which in itself unveiled some monumental cuntery by the Great British Public in its behaviour?

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:13 pm ... quite the sudden blind spot ...

I will laugh my knackers off if Murdoch croaks tonight.

Murdoch will live forever.

Why’s Laura Kuennsberg getting it in the neck? She always quotes ‘a source close to the government said’ in her dreary reports. The fact that it was Cummings isn’t a big deal. The source is sometimes Gove as well but that’s virtually the same source.