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Boiler wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:12 pm From the BBC SYB at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56899901#comments

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Yeah but didn’t anyone sane leave that years ago?

Anyhow all dumped as the postal votes arrive, I don’t think his approval rating is that solid either.

And if he is really liked dumping him will hurt the Tories, no doubt within 2 years people will be mocking him for being shite.

If scripted, I don't think Johnson's the showrunner.
Have a look at the Murdoch, Fawkes, Gove axis for the creatives at work.

Meanwhile the team sent out to bat for Boris against his latest charges are making Australia, Trent Bridge 2015 look competent.

England vs. Australia, Trent Bridge (August 2015)

In sport, there are countless “Where were you when?” moments, and this is up there with the best of them. Stuart Broad will have no trouble remembering where he was on this occasion, because it was him that took eight wickets for 15 runs on the first day of the fourth Ashes Test at Trent Bridge.

Dorries, in particular, ought to lay off the Vodka till the cornflakes are eaten.

So have we had 3 versions since Sunday? Johnson paid, the Tory Party paid with a loan, and Mr Bromelow paid?

Possibly part of the strategy. Multiple versions of events, in the hope that people throw their hands up and say "who knows?" and move on.

Good point. Just like having two liars face off against each other.

Oh dear. Looks like the High Court thinks there might be a case to answer to...


High Court to look at PM's Patel 'bullying' decision

By Justin Parkinson
Political reporter, BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56901333

I'm not sure about this.

Johnson wants to cut back on judicial review (though frustratingly for him, the people he got to report on it didn't give him what he wanted). A judge potentially telling the PM he ought to sack somebody (have I understood the case properly?) will sound a lot like judicial overreach to a lot of people. Patel's damaged goods, it's better she stay there from my point of view- somebody just as bad will likely replace her.

Interesting that the union brought this case. Sounds like they want to put down a marker for others likely to be on the receiving end of ministers.

I'm getting really tired of hearing journalists on the news stating that the public knew what they were getting when they voted for Johnson. This is complete nonsense. Johnson's main selling points at the general election were, 'Get Brexit Done' and 'I'm not Jeremy Corbyn.' He dodged any major interviews and mainly left it to the tabloid newspapers to do his bidding for him.

'Major Sleaze', 'Andrea Jenkyns sounds better on mute', 'Are you a liar?' and 'Johnson completely loses his shit' trending.

I may have paraphrased, but not a very convincing performance from an alleged prime minister today.

Starmer not going for cheap, showy shots to look good today, but calmly asking a series of questions whose answers will probably look very bad for Johnson in due course.

The contrast was stark.

Interestingly, even Laura Kuenssberg is foregrounding Johnson's non-answers, and attacking Tory defence of them afterwards.

I'm wondering if someone's smelling blood in the water.

satnav wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:39 pm I'm getting really tired of hearing journalists on the news stating that the public knew what they were getting when they voted for Johnson. This is complete nonsense. Johnson's main selling points at the general election were, 'Get Brexit Done' and 'I'm not Jeremy Corbyn.' He dodged any major interviews and mainly left it to the tabloid newspapers to do his bidding for him.

Alastair Campbell has laid into the BBC for their coverage of Johnson:

Both sides now trying to claim Kevin Keegan*.




*A former professional football player who moved into management, M'Lud. Best remembered for losing his temper during a televised interview and quitting when things got tough.

Akcherlee, I prefer Prof Cox's comparison.

Says a thousand words etc:


That red-faced fury is a man who knows he's in the shit, is incandescent that he is being held to account, and who has no answers to anything that won't make it worse for himself.

It's also notable that the man pictured is not Boris Johnson. The man pictured is very much Alexander Johnson.

View from a Tory supporter:

More generally, and without comment on the value (however measured) of what Carrie has had done, there's a puritanism about how that tied home is managed that I'm not sure reflects well on us as a country. If we expect the PM to live over the shop, and to be able to be turfed out at minimal notice, allowing and enabling them to feel as if they are living at home doesn't seem altogether unreasonable.

Very, very much so.

It's not often the mask slips at the despatch box, but it's very obvious when it does.

Johnson could easily have said "there's an investigation happening, the Leader of the Opposition will not want to prejudice this". He didn't because he's not got the slightest self-discipline.

Boiler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:31 pm View from a Tory supporter:

More generally, and without comment on the value (however measured) of what Carrie has had done, there's a puritanism about how that tied home is managed that I'm not sure reflects well on us as a country. If we expect the PM to live over the shop, and to be able to be turfed out at minimal notice, allowing and enabling them to feel as if they are living at home doesn't seem altogether unreasonable.

Completely missing out the bullshitting about how it was paid for.