[Youngian]

Continental far right parties have won with slick younger leaders who've managed to strike a chord beyond the usual suspects that Farage attracts. Be more concerned if Badenoch won than Jenrick.

[Tubby Isaacs]

As someone brought up with Heseltine's claim that the Tories were the most effective election-fighting machine in Western Europe , these are incredible days. They've overnight turned into Labour post-83, explaining away cataclysmic defeat as happening not because they were seen as extremists, but because they weren't extreme enough. They're chasing the Reform vote without reaiising that a big chunk of said vote is now full-on WEF/Great Reset/Covid-denying batshitters who won't vote Tory under any leader who isn't Farage.

And lots of Reform voters are left wing on economics. They put this some way behind being right wing on culture and might show up for Kemi, but talk of privatisation and cutting taxes on the richest won’t help.

[mattomac]

Continental far right parties have won with slick younger leaders who've managed to strike a chord beyond the usual suspects that Farage attracts. Be more concerned if Badenoch won than Jenrick.

A couple of issues here.

Jenrick is 2 years younger than Badenoch and the race does play a part in these things.

Also the fact you mention Slick.

[Youngian]

42 but Jenrick's about 70 in Tory years. Kemi's a breath of fresh of air compared to stale Jenrick, according to a focus group of morons.

Tory switchers warm to ‘no-nonsense’ Badenoch over Jenrick’s ‘more of the same’ https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... leadership

[Crabcakes]

No nonsense = slagging off autistic children because a lot of retired colonels and their awful wives think it’s actually just kids being lazy.

Has Hitchens endorsed her? He’s a big fan of making out factually-based, established mental health diagnoses are fraudulent as well, and coincidentally he’s also incredibly arrogant, entitled, thin skinned and calls foul as soon as he’s pulled up on anything, so she’d be right up his street.

[Tubby Isaacs]

There was a fair bit of nonsense in that pamphlet.

[Rosvanian]

Has Hitchens endorsed her? He’s a big fan of making out factually-based, established mental health diagnoses are fraudulent as well, and coincidentally he’s also incredibly arrogant, entitled, thin skinned and calls foul as soon as he’s pulled up on anything, so she’d be right up his street.

That's all on the money about Hitchens but he'll not be endorsing either of them as these days he hates the Conservative party as it's been too left wing for decades and is now just a continuation of new Labour. Then again, he also has no time for Thatcher as she wasn't a true conservative.

[Crabcakes]

Well he is a hypocrite as well, so I suppose not recognising his own traits is par for the course

[mattomac]

42 but Jenrick's about 70 in Tory years. Kemi's a breath of fresh of air compared to stale Jenrick, according to a focus group of morons.

Tory switchers warm to ‘no-nonsense’ Badenoch over Jenrick’s ‘more of the same’ https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... leadership

I’m a bit wary of room of people who know who these two are. Also any reason they haven’t ask LD switchers?

Also Harriet Hartman answer just made me feel very cynical about them, if of course they got hacked they’d be angry in a local newspaper before midday.