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The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Jesus.

I know it's a vanity project, but I presume Lebedev wants to get some of his money back. Even allowing for the fact that it's a commuters paper rather than a London paper, this stuff doesn't make much sense. I think Metro started around 2000, and it fairly quickly got the hang of not putting its potential audience off too obviously. For the Standard to be doing this in 2023 beggars belief.


Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Look at this shit.

Funnily enough nothing for the Prime Minister of the time.


Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:55 pm
by mattomac
Running shit scared I guess.

Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Not that this joke paper will make much difference, but Davey has taken a hit. The main character from the Post Office film has just said Davey was lied to, like everyone else.

Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:34 pm
by davidjay
Last time I was in London I picked up a Standard for the train and couldn't believe how small it is now. It can't be long for this world.

Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yeah, it's literally lightweight.

Here's some more rubbish. The MRP poll rather strongly suggested that a much smaller swing would give them a majority. You don't get a 12% CON-LAB swing if there are hardly any CON voters to swing.


Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:14 pm
by Killer Whale
Don't know why this is suddenly news. Polling companies have been projecting onto the new constituencies ever since they were finalised. Is there a 'don't risk going to Reform as a protest' agenda at work?

Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It is a very large poll (14,000 interviews all over the country). So not unreasonable it's news, especially in an election year.

But there's co-ordinated spin going on from the Telegraph and their hard right allies.

Re: The (London) Evening Standard

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:22 am
by mattomac
I assume it’s the boundary crunching, which ironically shows a majority of 120 of a swing (you guessed it) around 13%.

The analysis on Scotland is even more appalling, Labour have never had a majority without 40 seats in Scotland, when it could have 3 times.

It’s somewhat relevant in analysis to 2019, the problem it’s 2024, the year of an election and Labour have solidly led in the polls by double digits since about September 2022, for comparison the Tories had a poll lead in 1992 on this day by 3pts, 42% which they would get in the GE a few months later.

And the polls over the last 10 days have increased for Labour with a YG outlier tonight putting them 27pts ahead and the Tories on 20pts. Liz Truss only went that lower twice (outside of Matt Goodwin’s nonsense polling).