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Back for a new run, so I thought it needs a new thread.

Tonight from Grimsby, the panel is Layla Moran MP, Wes Streeting MP, Brendan Clarke-Smith MP, Claire Fox, and some economist geezer named Gerald.

I so wish the BBC, and other media organisations, would stop affording Fox airtime and credibility. Her opinions are total bollocks, and she is a thoroughly nasty individual to boot.

Only positive is that the Grimsby audience seems to be blessedly short of gammon.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:36 pm

Only positive is that the Grimsby audience seems to be blessedly short of gammon.

Not generally the case...

Brendan Clarke-Smith, is that the best the Tories had to offer? He's an utter non-entity and one of those "Common Sense Group" tossers to boot.

and others

No Hannan or Farage wants to step up? They have two days to find someone.

Mr Spock and a free market Pakistani property developer have volunteered to win over Clacton.

Meh, I'll give a pass. Don't really care what Brexit voters think, been hearing their shit for the past 7 years.

For once I am interested in what shite they come out with, no idea if regret or double down and deflect will prevail.

I can remember when the Tory MP for Clacton crossed the floor to join UKIP and a by-election was called. The consensus of the vox pops on the BBC was "That Tory has been useless. We're not voting for him again. We'll take a punt on the kipper this time".

The Tory they all voted for last time who turned out to be useless was Douglas Carswell. The kipper they were going to try this time was, er, Douglas Carswell.

If you're going to watch QT it might be an idea to have your blood-pressure pills handy. They're a special kind of stupid in Clacton.

Dalem Lake wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:33 am Meh, I'll give a pass. Don't really care what Brexit voters think, been hearing their shit for the past 7 years.

As any form of closer relationship with the EU is dependent on Leave voters changing their minds, I'm very interested in what they think.

Oboogie wrote:

Dalem Lake wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:33 am Meh, I'll give a pass. Don't really care what Brexit voters think, been hearing their shit for the past 7 years.

As any form of closer relationship with the EU is dependent on Leave voters changing their minds, I'm very interested in what they think.

As the audience selection for QT is always a bit suss you'll probably find some that may have changed their minds but I'd wager most will still say it's a good idea but it's gone crap because of government, EU, Remoaner elite, etc, etc. I'm just done with the whole thing.

Yes. It looks more like a desperate attempt to 'prove' it's not Brexit's fault that it's shit.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:28 pm Yes. It looks more like a desperate attempt to 'prove' it's not Brexit's fault that it's shit.

Why, what have they said?

Dalem Lake wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:24 pm As the audience selection for QT is always a bit suss you'll probably find some that may have changed their minds but I'd wager most will still say it's a good idea but it's gone crap because of government, EU, Remoaner elite, etc, etc.

Which would mean they would be representative, according to the poll of Brexiters the Guardian reported on today. Those who still believe or are not sure account for about three quarters of them, "18% – said it had gone well, or very well, while 30% said it had gone neither well nor badly, and 26% said it was still too soon to say."

It seems we are still a long way off winning a super majority for rejoin, "A large majority of those polled – 72% – said they would vote again the way they did in 2016 even knowing what they know seven years later; while 72% also said they wanted to stop discussing Brexit."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... QLhdD6N1lI

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:28 pm Yes. It looks more like a desperate attempt to 'prove' it's not Brexit's fault that it's shit.

I am Mystic Malc and I predict they will try to pass the buck...

As there’s an annual one percent net gain to Remainer demographics that 72 percent becomes 28% of the electorate by 2026.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:12 pm

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:28 pm Yes. It looks more like a desperate attempt to 'prove' it's not Brexit's fault that it's shit.

I am Mystic Malc and I predict they will try to pass the buck...

May, Remoaners, EU shenanigans, Covid, Ukraine, he almost died, woke blob, Cummings / not Cummings, Sturgeon in Scotland, Khan in London, the Caaaancil.

It's as if those Telegraph columns write themselves.

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:41 pm It's as if those Telegraph columns write themselves.

It's that new AI technology: Artificial Ignorance.

A miserable audience from Clacton, ok they’ve probably never been a ray of sunshine since 1965 but the fire in their know-it-all bellies of 2016 has long since departed. ‘Sovereignty’ is all they have left in the bag and if you think Brussels and straight bananas is a tired dated Remoaner cliche think again.
Doubt Alistair Campbell will change many minds but sending Redwood and someone even nuttier is less likely to win Brexit any converts.

Youngian wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:13 am Doubt Alistair Campbell will change many minds but sending Redwood and someone even nuttier is less likely to win Brexit any converts.

Redwood was a late booking, not a single minister was prepared to go on and defend their flagship policy.