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Heavyweight football analysis from the paper who think Wrexham have been playing in the "Welsh football league".

Highly successful people (from outside the EU, to boot) invest a lot of their own money, and achieve great results. What's for the Spectator not to like? Oh, they made a successful TV series about it. And Ryan Reynolds's glamorous wife hasn't moved to Wrexham, or something.

I mean, yeah, you never know if rich people will get bored with something, or really fuck it up. But you know, teams do survive after television series have finished.

Yep, it's all incredibly uncomfortable. We're on much safer group with the petro state gazilionaires and their 'traditional values' buying into the working class culture of Manchester and Newcastle. I've had a couple of light ales so my tongue (and fingers) feel a bit loose. So...the Spectator is written by a bunch of despicable cunts who have fuck all to do with working class people and which is read by a bunch of despicable cunts who also have fuck all to do with working class people.

It's the old Spiked stance - working class people are hard and thick, and don't we just love the reflected glamour of a bit of rough?

I wonder how they square the ever present "you can't say anything these days" with the fact that McElhenny* made his considerable fortune writing and starring in a show like "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia". It must be useful to have such selective cultural blindness when vision would expose your worldview for being complete bollocks.


*Reynolds has arguably reached his current status with Deadpool, which is probably as subversive as you can get in the Marvel mileu, whilst we're about it.

More finger on the pulse from the Spectator here, with that key group of voters, women under 35 who love The Times.

Basically why is Milleinial Millie not moaning about Immigrants and Gays for her life instead of what since University has the Conservative Party done in its past 13 years for her.

mattomac wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 12:16 am Basically why is Milleinial Millie not moaning about Immigrants and Gays for her life instead of what since University has the Conservative Party done in its past 13 years for her.

Let me guess: She drives a mid range SUV with "Live, laugh, love" stickers and profiles the other school run mums based on their cars and clothes.

Strangely I graduated with this age group because I went a few years late, I still have a fair few on FB.

It seems completely negative towards the Conservatives, that 30-50 age group is often ignored but its pissed off and its starting to vote.

I went to the school out of If... (it was mostly good, albeit with incredible amounts of time spent hanging about) and occasionally I look up people with reasonably distinctive names that I can remember on Facebook. Not much love for Brexit among them.

Zoomer Xander sounds like a right laugh

https://thecritic.co.uk/meet-the-new-swing-voters/

Zoomer Xander. Xander wouldn’t vote if you drove him to the polling station, dragged him into the voting booth by his curls and marked his ballot on his behalf. Still, Keir Starmer could still lose the election for himself by claiming that he’s “finna hit Net Zero by 2030 no cap”.

As a general thing, I've always been...not amazed as such, but interested...by the number of avowedly liberal politicians and journalists who will merrily trip along to the Spectator's summer garden party and would think you mad were you to suggest that if their alleged principals mean anything to them they should probably skip it.

As a general thing, I've always been...not amazed as such, but interested...by the number of avowedly liberal politicians and journalists who will merrily trip along to the Spectator's summer garden party

If there’s free booze and a buffet spread laid on, journalists will attend. A colleague of mine was so advanced in the art of ligging he’d buy a nominal amount of shares in breweries as there’s a free bar at their AGMs.

Spectator law columnist, Steven Barrett here being spectacularly dishonest here. As George Peretz says, watch out for him picking up a safe seat soon.

Hadn't seen this hilarious bit of Steven Barrett from before. It's like he thinks an EU Commissioner came into work one day saying "You gotta read what this Steven Barrett guy has said! We should have thought of that!" Which is about as likely as a load of productivity researchers arriving at work tmrw and saying "Have you read Danny Kruger's speech? We've been getting it all wrong for years!"

The EU seems to have survived that particular crisis anyway,

Constitutional law expert, Steven Barrett, is one of about 2 people still bothering with the Sue Gray stuff. The Government is so confident in the latest that rather than Oliver Dowden say it, it's outsourced it to an anonymous source talking to The Sun.

As someone BTL points out, advisors don't lobby, they advise. And the explanation why this was a Labour plot is absolute bollocks anyway (the law wasn't about women in prison in Scotland anyway).

Now, who's available and has form for these slightly snarky passive-aggressive rhetorical questions, as demonstrated by a 2 page letter screenshotted on his own thread, and is pally with the Murdoch media?

Clue: his surname rhymes with mauve and he's a cunt.

Dowden’s in charge on this one, isn’t he? More likely his YTS boy.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 4:50 pm

As a general thing, I've always been...not amazed as such, but interested...by the number of avowedly liberal politicians and journalists who will merrily trip along to the Spectator's summer garden party

If there’s free booze and a buffet spread laid on, journalists will attend. A colleague of mine was so advanced in the art of ligging he’d buy a nominal amount of shares in breweries as there’s a free bar at their AGMs.

I am generally the last person to cast aspersions on anyone seeking to maneuver themselves into the vicinity of gratis alcohol and nibbles, especially in these straightened times, but the kind of people I have in mind can well afford to cover their own damn bar tabs.

So who are these people then?

Looking back at this thread, I haven't noticed any great movement on the Sue Gray "bombshell" up there. Maybe Steven Barrett is still going, but I'd expect to have heard from Oliver Dowden as well by now.

Is there even an actual "inquiry" beyond a Spad having sent an email? If that.