:sunglasses: 50 % :pray: 6.3 % :laughing: 34.4 % :cry: 3.1 % :poo: 6.3 %
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#32534
Momentum. Seeing the shadow of the noose...
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By Arrowhead
#32585
Interesting to read that party membership currently stands at 373,000 members. That's down quite a bit from the Corbyn peak (I think it passed half a million at one point?), but still a healthy number considering the turmoil & bitterness of recent years.

The Starmer-era fall in membership presumably accounts for why the hard left is suddenly finding itself so comprehensively outnumbered.
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By Andy McDandy
#32586
373,000 people who can hold a conversation and potentially attract more people in, or 500,000 people, many of whom are determined to close the doors to anyone not as ideologically pure as they are*. Not really a contest.

*Them, their mates, and that activist in the scratty jumper who they fancy.
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By Crabcakes
#32599
While Jez’s fan club will suggest this is unpopularity, what it actually suggests is twofold:

1. That without the messiah in charge to provide and atmosphere of cover, many don’t feel safe in the party - and by that I mean safe to hold extreme, unpalatable views
2. None of them can be arsed to fight for what they apparently believe in, nor have sufficient belief to put forward a hard left agenda that the majority would support.

For the latter point, it’s a page straight out of Corbyn’s personal playbook. Why do something that requires effort when you can do nothing and then just complain about everything not being how you want it instead?
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By davidjay
#32617
Crabcakes wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:08 pm While Jez’s fan club will suggest this is unpopularity, what it actually suggests is twofold:

1. That without the messiah in charge to provide and atmosphere of cover, many don’t feel safe in the party - and by that I mean safe to hold extreme, unpalatable views
2. None of them can be arsed to fight for what they apparently believe in, nor have sufficient belief to put forward a hard left agenda that the majority would support.

For the latter point, it’s a page straight out of Corbyn’s personal playbook. Why do something that requires effort when you can do nothing and then just complain about everything not being how you want it instead?
It says a lot about the Cult that for all of the talk about it and all these lost members, nobody has yet set up the 'real' Labour party they claim would be so popular.
By Youngian
#32666
davidjay wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:10 am
Crabcakes wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:08 pm While Jez’s fan club will suggest this is unpopularity, what it actually suggests is twofold:

1. That without the messiah in charge to provide and atmosphere of cover, many don’t feel safe in the party - and by that I mean safe to hold extreme, unpalatable views
2. None of them can be arsed to fight for what they apparently believe in, nor have sufficient belief to put forward a hard left agenda that the majority would support.

For the latter point, it’s a page straight out of Corbyn’s personal playbook. Why do something that requires effort when you can do nothing and then just complain about everything not being how you want it instead?
It says a lot about the Cult that for all of the talk about it and all these lost members, nobody has yet set up the 'real' Labour party they claim would be so popular.
Hold the front page
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By Abernathy
#32678
I’m afraid I did read the article. A totally false narrative, of course, save for this one flash of self-awareness :

It is an entirely futile exercise to waste time and effort trying to make the Labour Party a force for socialism and anti-imperialism.
We had our chance and we blew it.
Should have spotted that one in 2015, Chris.
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By Arrowhead
#32691
Abernathy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:40 pm Should have spotted that one in 2015, Chris.
I've only recently realised that Williamson was one of the (very) few Labour politicians to have presided over a formal LAB/CON coalition, whilst leader of Derby City Council fifteen years ago. It's certainly been a wild ride ever since.
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By Crabcakes
#32715
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:17 pm
While these are cheering numbers, it’s also slightly insane that 2 years ago we were concerned Johnson could call another election around now and see the Tories in to the mid to late 2020s. When the house of cards goes, it ALL goes.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
#32722
Excellent, galvanising speech by Keir.
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By Spoonman
#32726
Crabcakes wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:46 pm You can tell it’s good by the Jez fanclub Twitter reaction, who seem to have been left making incredibly weak gags and jibes because there’s nothing they can actually complain about.
If Labour manage to get 20+ points ahead in a reputable opinion poll in the near future, the "huh huh, I said Keef" brigade's collective heads will combust.
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