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By Tubby Isaacs
#76191
Jesus Christ. Greg Smith is in the Shadow Cabinet?

Josiah Mortimer
‪@josiahjourno.bsky.social‬
Tory Shadow Transport Sec Greg Smith tells Politico - Khan's Oxford St pedestrianisation plans are “yet another move by the London mayor to drive people out of London”

“He may as well put up a sign saying ‘don’t come here, your money isn’t welcome in our shops, pubs, cafes and restaurants"

Deluded
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By Crabcakes
#76192
In principle: great idea. Urban pedestrianisation can only help ailing city centre shops.

In practice in Oxford St. in particular: it’s too late. It’s been absolute dogshit for *decades*. Bond St? Sure. But Oxford St - especially the TCR end - is just scam auction shops, tat shops, American candy definitely not money laundering shops, and 40,000 branches of Pret A Manger.

I wouldn’t want to go there even if it was pedestrianised, because if I wanted to go somewhere shit and commercialised where the park bits were full of drunk tramps and hyper aggressive beggars/chuggers, I’d go to Leicester Square.
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By Oboogie
#76228
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:56 pm Jesus Christ. Greg Smith is in the Shadow Cabinet?

Josiah Mortimer
‪@josiahjourno.bsky.social‬
Tory Shadow Transport Sec Greg Smith tells Politico - Khan's Oxford St pedestrianisation plans are “yet another move by the London mayor to drive people out of London”

“He may as well put up a sign saying ‘don’t come here, your money isn’t welcome in our shops, pubs, cafes and restaurants"

Deluded
When was the last time one could drive up Oxford Street, park and pop into a shop, pub, café or restaurant? My guess is the 1930s.
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By Andy McDandy
#76236
They aren't aiming at Londoners. Nor are they going for people visiting London.

They're aiming at people with a very clear idea of what London should be like, but won't go there because of what they think it's like.
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By Yug
#76240
They're wasting time and effort preaching to the converted. For normal people outside of London the announcement that a major London thoroughfare is going to be pedestrianised is greeted in the same way as an announcement that Cantaloupe Road in Ross-on-Wye is to be pedestrianised - an enthusiastic "So what?". The second thought, for people like me who are only occasional visitors to London is "It's about time".

This may actually draw more visitors into central London.
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By Andy McDandy
#76243
It's the Sky TV mentality all over again, as well.

Explanation - in the early days of satellite TV, the point of having a dish and receiver was not so much to access great programming, but to deny it to others. If Sky had not existed, then top flight sport, the Simpsons, new films etc would have been shown on terrestrial TV. If you subscribed to Sky though, you got to see them while your neighbour couldn't. Exclusivity.

So, how does this apply to Oxford Street? Simple - if the only way to enjoy traversing the thoroughfare is to walk it or to catch a bus - which just about anyone can do - then it's not exclusive. You're getting rained on and jostled and have to breathe in next to them. Ugh. If on the other hand you can drive in (or even better, be driven in), you can choose where to park, where to get out, how long to stay, and so on. You don't get rained on. You can threaten to nudge proles out of your way. It's a big old sign saying that you're richer than the plebs - even if it costs you a bomb. You're still richer (and thus better) than them.
By davidjay
#77114
It's a good idea for cities and bigger towns to have someone with the remit to bang head together and impose some sort of strategy for things such as late-night transport, safety on the streets and a wider variety of nightlife than Wetherspoons, All Bar One and Walkabout. Londn, though, is too big and too diverse. The problems of the West End are different to those in Hackney, which is different to Islington, and so on.
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