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Cyclist wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:46 pm It should be easy to find out exactly how many people's politics are driven by a desire for vengeance against the Labour Party for destroying the hope of a more just world by looking at the Momentum membership list. That's how many.

And yet you just know that there's a parallel where people are substituting "Blairite" for "Momentum".

Something that does not seem to afflict the Tories.

No. The "hope for a more just world" refers to Corbyn. Momentalists didn't want to get rid of him. They blame the evil red Tory centrist Blairite fascists for getting rid of the World's Greatest Politician ™, so they are the ones who want vengeance against the (current) Labour Party. Hence urging people to vote for the disgusting Galloway creature in a recent by-election.

The minor inconvenience being the truth that they didn’t want a more just world. They wanted a world where they got to decide what was and wasn’t “just”. Sure, some things might have improved. Some things - for example, the lives of anyone living in a country that Putin has got his beady eyes on, or anyone of a certain religion who isn’t inclined to self-flagellate daily because of the actions of the government of a country they may have no connection with, less so.

All great but the country rejected it twice.

The manifesto where they slashed benefits so they could afford to abolish tuition fees told me all I needed to know about their more just world.

Labour’s left flank seemed to have spent the last week going on about when Starmer turned down a job.

Because that's much more important than Tory corruption.

mattomac wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:55 pm Labour’s left flank seemed to have spent the last week going on about when Starmer turned down a job.

The memes I've seen tell a tale of strong and commanding Magic Grandad forcing Starmer to decline said job because it had ties to pro-zionist causes

The job Starmer had already turned down, before Jezza found his green crayon.

I'd also like to know what these bold ideas because to me it seems these bold ideas are either A) things they've borrowed off the Bernie Sanders campaign, B) re run the 2017 manifesto or C) reheated Bennism.

Wealth tax seems to be the latest- let's have everything we want and get someone else to pay The work for this seems to involve taking an estimate of wealth and plugging a percentage into a calculator- because of course the super rich will just say "fair cop, guv".

It's OK as a supplement to the tax take we already have, and worth considering on that basis, but that's not what Jezzite thinkers are talking about.

Try not to throw up:

I can beat that.

I’ve held my hands up in the past, yes I voted for Jez in leadership election…..I’m quietly dying of shame and embarrassment

I don't think Corbynites quite get this "leadership" thing, do they?

Bevan actually did something with his power.

Ironically he probably wouldn’t have thought much of Corbyn from what I’ve read, he was critical of his type back then.

As for Corbyn, he is an MP, what they are really concerned is a general election happening and him losing his cushy job of doing fuck all and pontificating to his worshipping cult.

No guarantee he would win or Labour for that matter but a split vote opens that chance.

It seems I owe the Corbynistas an apology, they're into self parody, I didn't think they had the wit.

mattomac wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:04 pm Bevan actually did something with his power.

Ironically he probably wouldn’t have thought much of Corbyn from what I’ve read, he was critical of his type back then.

Bevan was a Zionist, he'd have been hounded out of Corbyn's Labour.

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/a ... eader-ever

I stumbled across this recently, it seems a decent summary of the disaster that was the Allotment Jesus years.